Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan: there is no such thing as climate

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Not as much as Rogan when mainstream media has done way worse.


This is absolutely false, during Eisenhower's time there was not such a big divide between left and right at all.
They were actually somewhat similar.



CNN lied about the war.
MSNBC never talks about the war and fired Phil Donahue for voicing his opinions and then Dylan Ratigan for his rant on corporate corruption.
Can you even imagine if Joe Rogan had an associate on the show and he corrected Rogan and then Rogan fired him, do you know even know the size of the online backlash there would be?
Fox News had Bill O'Reilly making people more racist and stupid, and now hannity and tucker got the batons and running with it.
CNBC is always pro-bank.

Im not saying the govt. didn't lie about the war, i'm saying mainstream media was absolutely 100% complicit.
MSNBC did expose all of Bush's lies in the end but then was pro war during Obama.

Put it this way, mainstream media has blood on it's hands, Rogan does not.
I understand people's discontent with him, but the energy against mainstream media should be ten fold.
What you're saying isn't true.
There has been intense media criticism for decades and in no way is Rogan attacked more than figures like Tucker Carlson.
And there were massive divides between Left and Right - they were murdering Leftist unionists across the U.S. :gucci:
And no one is saying the mainstream media wasn't complicit, but you're talking about the state-backed national and international media, which have always followed the state-line, even going back to the 1800s :dwillhuh:
 

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When Rogan has a right-winger on everyone that doesn't watch Rogan talks about it.
When Rogan has a leftie on, nobody on the left talks about it.

He did have someone say the military is underfunded, he also had Abby Martin on who said the Pentagon needs to be seriously downsized and is the planet's biggest polluter and contributing the most to climate change.
How many Left-wingers has Rogan had on? I don't even think you need two hands to count them all. And "the Left" "talked" about it.
 

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Rogan is one of the most listened to media figures in the U.S. and platforms reactionaries that have a hard time even getting mainstream corporate media attention.

People have been explicitly critical of mainstream media for decades, you just don’t pay attention to any of it, so you think it isn’t there.

What exactly do you think “Manufacturing Consent” as a term means?


Mainstream media has also not “divided the country,” there have been deep ideological divides since its founding, that have festered and only widened overtime, in part due to media attention, but largely due to the actions of a given group - like the conservative backlash against basic civil rights for Black people, for instance.

The government(s) lied to the people of the U.S. about the Iraq War, blaming CNN first is mindbogglingly short-sighted.

Of course MSM has plenty of issues but alternative media can be just as divisive and destructive. What good is alternative media if its spewing out dangerous misinformation with little to no push back? What we need is better journalism in this country and a population with critical thinking skills.

We don't need sketchy people spewing out their half baked opinions on popular platforms. Especially if there is no means to adequately challenge their position on the fly. Joe Rogan definitely isn't going to do that because he is clearly has a bias and is too much of airhead.
 

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I remember when Rogan pretended to be a centrist.
Recently he had the one guy explain why the US Military is underfunded and now he has Jordan Peterson explain why climate change isn't real.
He's unashamedly far right now.

And stupid to boot. The only real issue I remember him caring about outside his career, is weed. Now he’s knee deep in to Covid and platforming right wing douche bags with no push back or with approval.
 

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The only problem is, Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson are two of the dumbest people on earth. The wildly successful podcast host and self-help author’s careers have intersected and built on one another multiple times, as their core audience of disaffected young men is largely the same. Their paths crossed once again this week in a four-hour marathon conversation on The Joe Rogan Experience, during which Peterson bizarrely and very proudly wore a tuxedo. Their topics were varied, but almost all of them were intensely stupid, if not incoherent.
I can't imagine having that much money and notoriety and being so embarrassingly stupid. Whenever I hear that someone listens to Rogan I immediately lose all respect for them.
 

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So sick up this culture of anti-intellectualism. Everyone's opinion is somehow more credible than scientists and experts who've spent their entire career studying a certain subject. And I'm sick of Joe Rogan spreading bs to millions of people. Its ok to be an "out of the box" and radical thinker as long as you apply that same skeptisim to your beliefs. But this isn't what JP and Rogan are doing. They purposely lean heavily into alternative facts that support their own bias.
I hate it too. JP is a psychiatrist and somehow believes that makes him an expert on everything else.

I hate how pretentious he is, and that he never has the balls to just admit he's a conservative Christian. He always uses a bunch of flowery language when asked direct questions.

Also, who wears a tuxedo to a podcast?
 

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The shyt he said was idiotic coming from a supposed scientist.

Climate doesn’t exist because you can’t account for every variable?

We know that changes in climate are driven by 3 primary causes: solar activity, atmospheric particulate and greenhouse gases. There are robust models collating millions of pieces of data in real time.

Perhaps there are other factors that contribute to a smaller extent, but saying “climate isn’t real because you can’t account for every factor” is like saying health isn’t real because you can’t a account for ever factor. Applying this logic, your doctor cannot tell you what state your health is in: whether you are at risk for anything, or whether not you should lose weight, or take supplement or whatever because he doesn’t know everything that happened to your body.

And he has the nerve to say this garbage with a smug demeanor. What a fukking idiot. I believe dude that said his students used to ether him in his class.

When you put it like that it makes complete sense to me Peterson's retarded ass goes with this line of thinking. Dude spent like 2 years hoping from hospitals and different countries after he tried to self medicate and couldn't get a right treatment and kept getting bad diagnosis, mainly because his dumbass daughter kept bouncing him to different and weirder places :mjlol:
 
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