Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) tells all on Chris Jericho's podcast

[Francis White]

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I’m torn because tbh creative hasn’t actually been bad to me it’s just been very kind of meh recently. No big feuds for any of the champs and tbh I been liking the last two raws and smackdown with the Brock fukkery . I like joe and Rey Finn and el idolo feuds . After last years mania was to me way worse with the never ending Brock shyt .
I think Vince doesn’t know how to make the guy like reigns Seth kofi etc feel really special he treats them like just other guys while they go allllllllllll out for Brock and Ronda .
So it’s no real issue with Seth or Kofi being champs I like them both but they aren’t really being treated as special. Hell Seth just beat him clean at mania yet they acting like he is chasing the mitb . It’s the same with smackdown you can tell it’s not the A show that’s why it probably is allowed to try more things than raw . Also Vince is horribly out of date and unlike say Heyman who keeps up with things and probably could still out creative Vince .

Don’t lump Seth or Kofi with Roman. Roman is treated beyond special. He is the real cancer in the company. His character not Joe the human being.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Cliffs:

Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley talk is Jericho highlights - Heres the link

The Emancipation of Jon Moxley - Talk Is Jericho - Omny.fm

• He knew he wanted to leave the company in July 2018 when he was out with an injury
• Refused to read a scripted promo because he believed it was idiotic/ridiculous whilst Vince believed it was great
• Talks about the promos he read whilst feuding with Seth late last/early this year, and how they made no sense, tried to rewrite them and got frustrated when he couldn't
• He talked about enjoying the Make-A-Wish stuff and how he became an adult in WWE
• Says he thought him cutting the promo talking about Romans cancer was distasteful
• Says he felt like walking out on the Raw where he got shots/vaccinated during a promo, and that was the day he 100% knew he was leaving and not coming back
• Vince tried to talk him into saying another cancer remark about Roman, says it was so bad they could have lost sponsors, refused to say it (34 minutes into the podcast)
• Says he was excited to return to wrestling when he was injured, but not excited to return to WWE
• Says if there was no other promotion other than WWE, he still would have left
• Vince "didn't know" he was unhappy, even with Jon/dean being open with his frustrations to Vince about scripts
• Was happy to take bumps from Nia, but felt like it was them punishing him for leaving
• They offered him a new contract, he didn't look at it
• His goal in AEW is to be the best version of himself, looking forward to creative freedom
• Says Tony Kahn is the exact opposite of Vince, likes him and the fact he's a huge wrestling fan
• Talks about using social media now that he's out of WWE
• He told Seth he's a wild animal that's been domesticated for too long when Seth was upset about him leaving (to clarify, he was referring to himself as the wild animal, not Seth) he explained it to Seth as it being the end of Harry and the Hendersons where Harry is set free

Edit: Also, Sick Nick Mondo did the trailer for his return that was posted on twitter when he left WWE

 

[Rell Lauren]

Not really an admirable quality tbh. She knew how shyt the company was when she signed whatever deal she signed. Get through the bullshyt and get out when you legally can.
She was happy when she was a champ. Sounds like a belt mark to me.

Just like Dean. I'm not a Sasha mark. In fact, I think she's terrible, but she's standing up for what she thinks is right and at the day, I can't fault her for that. The reaction to both is worth the discussion particularly because one is a white male and the other is a minority woman. The racism in the IWC couldn't be more prevalent here.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Good for Moxley. When he lays all of these things out, it makes you wonder how some people put up with the madness for so long. Maybe they get treated differently than he did, but nonetheless.

Also - Newsflash: Cokeboy is so washed

The story about Vince phoning him to try and get him to extend his contract while he was shooting his teaser video

It's because they are marks for the company. As bad as it gets, they're just happy to walk on the WrestleMania ramp.

It's dumb too because if you get to the E and are talented in the ring, you're legit set for life for non-WWE bookings.

 

[ayatollah]

Just like Dean. I'm not a Sasha mark. In fact, I think she's terrible, but she's standing up for what she thinks is right and at the day, I can't fault her for that. The reaction to both is worth the discussion particularly because one is a white male and the other is a minority woman. The racism in the IWC couldn't be more prevalent here.

fukk outta here with the racism talk. Dean worked through the remainder of his contract. Sasha isn't doing the same. Dean did what was asked of him. Sasha did not. Such a cop out to say some racism bs.

 

[23Barrettcity]

i'm sure Dean was happy when he was world champ and when he was featured in the Shield. And again, people are calling Sasha entitled for her creative gripes, but for Dean it's a boost. why? Why aint he roll out when shyt was as bad as he claims? At least Pac had the balls to say "fukk this shyt, i'ma sit at home not working and not getting paid because i feel it's really bad here".

Breh listen to the podcast

Just like Dean. I'm not a Sasha mark. In fact, I think she's terrible, but she's standing up for what she thinks is right and at the day, I can't fault her for that. The reaction to both is worth the discussion particularly because one is a white male and the other is a minority woman. The racism in the IWC couldn't be more prevalent here.

What are you talking about ? Her and Neville just made their lives harder. they signed the contract and I’m sure they both accepted payment from Wwe without doing work . Dean handled his business like a grown up he told them his issues several times , and then told the bosses he was leaving

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Don’t lump Seth or Kofi with Roman. Roman is treated beyond special. He is the real cancer in the company. His character not Joe the human being.

Breh reigns isn’t in a title feud he’s not the champ he’s not headlining anything and he’s being mostly used correctly like a bad ass . Your talking about the past pushes of Roman

 

[prophecypro]

I listen to reason. No reason not to fulfill your contract. Pac aint no exception. bytch went home crying when he lost the belt to Enzo. Do your job.

Pac looking funny in the light in general lately after the AEW bail out

 

[Rell Lauren]

fukk outta here with the racism talk. Dean worked through the remainder of his contract. Sasha isn't doing the same. Dean did what was asked of him. Sasha did not. Such a cop out to say some racism bs.

She, like Neville, wants out. You'd do the same thing if you weren't satisfied at your job or you'd be content being a slave because you need the check?

 

[23Barrettcity]

She, like Neville, wants out. You'd do the same thing if you weren't satisfied at your job or you'd be content being a slave because you need the check?

She signed a contract though. So work till it’s done and go

 

[ayatollah]

She, like Neville, wants out. You'd do the same thing if you weren't satisfied at your job or you'd be content being a slave because you need the check?

I'd be content with fulfilling a contract I signed. Grown folk bidness'

 

[Rell Lauren]

I'd be content with fulfilling a contract I signed. Grown folk bidness'

Grown folks also walk away from the table when they realize it's not working out.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

So many posts in here

 

[ayatollah]

Grown folks also walk away from the table when they realize it's not working out.

Define contract.

The definition is not the following: something you honor when things go your way.

God damn, pal.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Define contract.

The definition is not the following: something you honor when things go your way.

God damn, pal.

Your spin is amazing. Contracts are broken all of the time. Neckbeards gonna neckbeards.

 

[FooFighters]

Again, this is the shyt Punk was talking about. Moxley was so out of it, he said "I'm fukkin these dudes over and they'll have no clue." This is why The Revival, Luke Harper, and Sasha want out so bad. This is why the New Day have creative control with their gimmick. They would be on fire if they left.