Joe Montana still the GOAT

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what year was that because i'm certain in 1990 the niners scored 13 at home in a loss to the giants going for a 3 peat

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What are you celebrating? Beli had niqqas sporting a shag stopping Jerry Rice.
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Tom plays in a terrible division and conference and cake walks to the SB every year, while the winner of the NFC was the SB champs as from 1982-1996 the NFC won the SB every year. Let me know when the AFC wins 15 straight SBs.
83 La Raiders won..you meant 84-96.
 

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500 yards passing yet the only pass I saw that was even remotely difficult was the rainbow to Gronk in the end zone. I mean really, basically every completion was to a receiver with no defender within feet of him. This is usually how it is. I know they've won so many games that y'all just can't accept that the system has made him, but the system has made him. It still takes skill to do it this long and this consistently and whatever, but dude has accumulated most of his stats and wins standing upright in clean pockets and delivering to wide open receivers. He's good but he's not GOAT
 

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500 yards passing yet the only pass I saw that was even remotely difficult was the rainbow to Gronk in the end zone. I mean really, basically every completion was to a receiver with no defender within feet of him. This is usually how it is. I know they've won so many games that y'all just can't accept that the system has made him, but the system has made him. It still takes skill to do it this long and this consistently and whatever, but dude has accumulated most of his stats and wins standing upright in clean pockets and delivering to wide open receivers. He's good but he's not GOAT
Not true..youre just a hater...
 

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500 yards passing yet the only pass I saw that was even remotely difficult was the rainbow to Gronk in the end zone. I mean really, basically every completion was to a receiver with no defender within feet of him. This is usually how it is. I know they've won so many games that y'all just can't accept that the system has made him, but the system has made him. It still takes skill to do it this long and this consistently and whatever, but dude has accumulated most of his stats and wins standing upright in clean pockets and delivering to wide open receivers. He's good but he's not GOAT
You dont even know the dfference between man and zone..you just watch football, you dont know it, whatsoever..
 

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You dont even know the dfference between man and zone..you just watch football, you dont know it, whatsoever..
I know you're sad your team lost, and you and all the other insecure fans of your team know deep down that much of the rest of the football world doesn't accept the narrative you push, but that doesn't mean it makes a difference what coverage the defense is in if receivers are wide open
 

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Ya'll don't use this for Jordan, why do it here? Negged.
I guess cause Brady got more rings than Montana, so that at least makes it an argument. Lebron, Kobe and others who are compared to Jordan don’t have more rings and FMVPs than him, so going to the finals more than Jordan holds less weight especially for Lebron who only won 3 out of 8 times.

The argument can kinda hold up for Brady cause at least he won more than half the super bowls he’s been in.

In my opinion it shouldn’t matter though, because Playing in a terrible division with all the cheating and favoritism took Brady out of the GOAT convo for me.
 

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Not true..youre just a hater...
And yeah I been a Br*dy hater for 16 years. So? Doesn't mean he hasn't benefited from excellent protection and receivers who could barely make other teams' rosters running free through secondaries for his entire career. Does he have a reasonably decent side step away from the rush? Sure. Does he make great throws sometimes? Sure. I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying - he usually ducks under pressure and struggles to throw guys open when guys aren't already open. It's been the playbook to beat him for years. If you increase his degree of difficulty, he's very beatable. This is.. very well known.
 

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This is cute but no one but 49ers fans will argue this. Making it to 8 and winning 5 is better than making 4 and never losing. Moreover the fact that Brady's teams were always flawed makes his wins that much more impressive. This is no longer a serious discussion. Montana did nothing better than Brady but throw on the run. Get over it.
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And yeah I been a Br*dy hater for 16 years. So? Doesn't mean he hasn't benefited from excellent protection and receivers who could barely make other teams' rosters running free through secondaries for his entire career. Does he have a reasonably decent side step away from the rush? Sure. Does he make great throws sometimes? Sure. I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying - he usually ducks under pressure and struggles to throw guys open when guys aren't already open. It's been the playbook to beat him for years. If you increase his degree of difficulty, he's very beatable. This is.. very well known.
Brady struggles to throw guys open?? No since in talking Brady with you..Good Luck to your Steelers next year. Im done..
 

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I know you're sad your team lost, and you and all the other insecure fans of your team know deep down that much of the rest of the football world doesn't accept the narrative you push, but that doesn't mean it makes a difference what coverage the defense is in if receivers are wide open
You dont..you said Atlanta sat back and allowed Brady to come back. ATL played 2 man under the entire game..You dont know what youre watching.
 
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