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Kevin rates based on no makeup, extensions or wigs. That is the only pic I can find of Kelly looking close to natural that looks flattering. She's still wearing makeup but it is light. Would you prefer I post these instead?

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This is a good picture of how she naturally looks face-wise compared to her with a full face of makeup. She's wearing weave in both pictures but this is the best I can find.
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Kelly Rowland is an 8 .. She is a natural beautiful woman
 

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The other problem with this argument is that you can't rate these celebrities accurately because they are photographed by professionals with flattering light and angles, so when you see them without makeup it's usually a picture they take themselves or they're in the moment of doing something so you aren't going to get a flattering image. I think Kelly Rowland is a good example for darker skin tones and I'd also say Gabrielle Union , even though people get at her for being crazy or changing DWade:hubie: Can't deny them without makeup
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Also having eyebrows grommed and clean teeth go a long way, you'll see alot of women forgo that and have overly arched eyebrows or even get eyebrow tattoos over microblading and that makes them look demonic.
 

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The other problem with this argument is that you can't rate these celebrities accurately because they are photographed by professionals with flattering light and angles, so when you see them without makeup it's usually a picture they take themselves or they're in the moment of doing something so you aren't going to get a flattering image. I think Kelly Rowland is a good example for darker skin tones and I'd also say Gabrielle Union , even though people get at her for being crazy or changing DWade:hubie: Can't deny them without makeup
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Also having eyebrows grommed and clean teeth go a long way, you'll see alot of women forgo that and have overly arched eyebrows or even get eyebrow tattoos over microblading and that makes them look demonic.

To me this is an actual 9

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Kelly and Gabrielle look average compared to Kenya Moore.
 

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:huh:yea no shyt.

but where y’all from that y’all never heard nikkas give a girl a number out of 10 ?

these type of convos happen all the time on a basketball court after a game or in a barbershop.
These nikkas are clearly lying

talking about you don’t rate chicks where you from and only gay nikkas rate chicks

Foh
 

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I was never attracted to kelly like that. I wouldn’t give her a 9 either. At the end of the day most of it is preference, but universally no one would say lizzo looks better than lauren london.
i never thought Kelly was fine. Plus she loses points for her Boob and nose job
 

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Most Africans Americans have features closer to Pam Grier with our 10-30% Versus Diane Carroll who does have more shaper and keen features.
It makes perfect sense:stopitslime:

Wrong check the pics, pam green's nose is only slightly different from diane
 
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