Mr. Leonidas
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Bottom line: Al Haymon is great for boxers, bad for boxing and its fans.
JIM LAMPLEY names HBO's "THE FIGHT GAME" person of THE YEAR: AL HAYMON...then decides to DISS HIM
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"We keep returning on TFG to the depiction of boxing as a risk versus reward equation. Our person of the year is a man who is widely acknowledged to have, on behalf of his star client Floyd Mayweather, mastered that equation like no other manager in history. But our designation of Al Haymon as the year's most influential figure has little to do with his advice to last year's 'Person of the Year' - Mayweather. It's about what he is doing with the other reported 130-plus fighters who now make up his clientele," Lampley said.
"If you had a sense 2014 was a year somewhat devoid of compelling top-level competition you would not be off base. Light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson had opportunities to fight three fellow stars - Sergei Kovalev, Bernard Hopkins, and Jean Pascal. He avoided all three. Middleweight titlist Peter Quillin gave up a belt and a career-high purse to avoid a fight with Matt Korobov. Talented junior featherweight titlist Leo Santa Cruz fought a sparring partner on the undercard of Mayweather-Maidana II. Adrien Broner and Lucas Matthysse, logical opponents for each other, fought lesser opponents on the same card."
"Danny Garcia fought a 140-pound opponent [in Rod Salka] so under-qualified even the governing bodies that market his belts wouldn't dignify the enterprise by charging a sanctioning fee. Rising welterweight force Keith Thurman fought long-faded former lightweight Julio Diaz, then fought a 40-year old nonentity. All these stars are advised by Al Haymon, and that's the proverbial tip of the iceberg."
"It would be great for boxing, great, if one brilliant entrepreneur managed an astonishing client list of 130-plus fighters with the consistent objective of making the most attractive and competitive fights available, within reasonable limits to protect their health and business prospects. But that hasn't been Haymon's game. He's about avoidance of risky competition.
"His formula has worked for star client Floyd Mayweather for a variety of reasons, among them that Mayweather took the right perceived risks earlier on, versus Genaro Hernandez and Oscar de la Hoya, to get to where he is now. But the Mayweather approach is not the right approach for the overall enhancement of boxing. Boxing fans want to see great fights, without which it is difficult to earn an identity as a great fighter."
"It's widely reported that for the next two years - Haymon will provide talent for as many as 40 boxing telecasts on NBC Sports Net and NBC. This would normally be cause to rejoice for everyone in the business. But no one is rejoicing now, unless the philosophy changes, and viewers get to see the best fighting the best. And based on what happened to Haymon's clients in 2014, that's the last thing we can expect. So in gathering together the largest concentration of boxing talent in the history of the sport, and then mostly shielding that talent from the kind of competition that would make him a hero to the boxing world - Al Haymon is the 2014 TFG Person of the Year."
http://www.boxingscene.com/hbos-lampley-fires-off-shoots-deep-on-al-haymon--85723
Damn...I couldnt disagree with NONE of that
"If you had a sense 2014 was a year somewhat devoid of compelling top-level competition you would not be off base. Light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson had opportunities to fight three fellow stars - Sergei Kovalev, Bernard Hopkins, and Jean Pascal. He avoided all three. Middleweight titlist Peter Quillin gave up a belt and a career-high purse to avoid a fight with Matt Korobov. Talented junior featherweight titlist Leo Santa Cruz fought a sparring partner on the undercard of Mayweather-Maidana II. Adrien Broner and Lucas Matthysse, logical opponents for each other, fought lesser opponents on the same card."
"Danny Garcia fought a 140-pound opponent [in Rod Salka] so under-qualified even the governing bodies that market his belts wouldn't dignify the enterprise by charging a sanctioning fee. Rising welterweight force Keith Thurman fought long-faded former lightweight Julio Diaz, then fought a 40-year old nonentity. All these stars are advised by Al Haymon, and that's the proverbial tip of the iceberg."
"It would be great for boxing, great, if one brilliant entrepreneur managed an astonishing client list of 130-plus fighters with the consistent objective of making the most attractive and competitive fights available, within reasonable limits to protect their health and business prospects. But that hasn't been Haymon's game. He's about avoidance of risky competition.
"His formula has worked for star client Floyd Mayweather for a variety of reasons, among them that Mayweather took the right perceived risks earlier on, versus Genaro Hernandez and Oscar de la Hoya, to get to where he is now. But the Mayweather approach is not the right approach for the overall enhancement of boxing. Boxing fans want to see great fights, without which it is difficult to earn an identity as a great fighter."
"It's widely reported that for the next two years - Haymon will provide talent for as many as 40 boxing telecasts on NBC Sports Net and NBC. This would normally be cause to rejoice for everyone in the business. But no one is rejoicing now, unless the philosophy changes, and viewers get to see the best fighting the best. And based on what happened to Haymon's clients in 2014, that's the last thing we can expect. So in gathering together the largest concentration of boxing talent in the history of the sport, and then mostly shielding that talent from the kind of competition that would make him a hero to the boxing world - Al Haymon is the 2014 TFG Person of the Year."
http://www.boxingscene.com/hbos-lampley-fires-off-shoots-deep-on-al-haymon--85723
Damn...I couldnt disagree with NONE of that
Pretend like Pacquiao didn't fight a kickboxer from ESPN's bench roster. Pretend like GGG doesn't fight dudes the same way CACs pick up illegal immigrants for landscaping. Pretend like Bradley didn't fight a dude who thinks there;s 23 states in the USA. Pretend like andre ward fought 
to boost ya network brehs. Act like Miguel cotto is deserving of that 160lb strap
to boost ya network brehs. Act like Miguel cotto is deserving of that 160lb strap
Pretend like Pacquiao didn't fight a kickboxer from ESPN's bench roster. Pretend like GGG doesn't fight dudes the same way CACs pick up illegal immigrants for landscaping. Pretend like Bradley didn't fight a dude who thinks there;s 23 states in the USA. Pretend like andre ward fought
Yeah...all that's true
But there's no way to disparage HBO's fight schedule in 2014 and compare it to Al Haymon's schedule for his fighters in 2014
Like for example:
Chad Dawson LITERALLY fought a nurse, Gary Russell Jr LITERALLY fought a Correctional Officer, Leo Santa Cruz LITERALLY fought his sparring partner, Deontay Wilder LITERALLY fought a landscaper
Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson, Adrien Broner, and Lucas Matthysse fought Rod Salka, "The Other" Carlos Molina , John Molina Jr, Roberto Ortiz, Dierry Jean, and Edgar Santana
Adonis Stevenson fought a guy with the last name Sukhotsky and and Andresj Fonfara fought someone with the first name of Doudou.........both bums and both names give away how much of a scrub they were with their "Fight Night Champion" early in your career bout names
I mean, there's no defense for it breh
It hurts breh it hurtsYeah...all that's true
But there's no way to disparage HBO's fight schedule in 2014 and compare it to Al Haymon's schedule for his fighters in 2014
Like for example:
Chad Dawson LITERALLY fought a nurse, Gary Russell Jr LITERALLY fought a Correctional Officer, Leo Santa Cruz LITERALLY fought his sparring partner, Deontay Wilder LITERALLY fought a landscaper
Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson, Adrien Broner, and Lucas Matthysse fought Rod Salka, "The Other" Carlos Molina , John Molina Jr, Roberto Ortiz, Dierry Jean, and Edgar Santana
Adonis Stevenson fought a guy with the last name Sukhotsky and and Andresj Fonfara fought someone with the first name of Doudou.........both bums and both names give away how much of a scrub they were with their "Fight Night Champion" early in your career bout names
I mean, there's no defense for it breh
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Haymon is a huge cancer in boxing
Pretend like Pacquiao didn't fight a kickboxer from ESPN's bench roster. Pretend like GGG doesn't fight dudes the same way CACs pick up illegal immigrants for landscaping. Pretend like Bradley didn't fight a dude who thinks there;s 23 states in the USA. Pretend like andre ward fought
finally someone with some logic
and Arum is ebola.
at Haymon owning the rights and licenses to all them Fight Night Champion bums, so we can't get a new boxing video game. Canny "McCanCan" Douglas and Thomas "Tomato" Tinley still holding shyt up because they don't wanna sign away their likenesses because they ain't one of Haymon's A list of fighters like Floyd, Broner, Garcia, etc and won't make any real money.
Instead Haymon is throwing them in the ring with his top clients and putting it on premium cable. Everyone loses.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
hmmm Don is sickle cell.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Funny how the white boy talked about THE ALI ACT was for don king. Now they're trying to use it against haymon. He doesn't speak on it being against any white promoters managers etc. They hate nikkas with power.
blackestofpanthers
God forgives, you are forgiven.
Who would be making this game? Because ea isn't making boxing games because champion didn't sell well and they are focused on ufc. Who made a boxing game with a lot of fighters besides them?
at least use a legit reason if you're gonna try to criticize someone. Just showed you have no idea what you're talking about.