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Elon has unleashed a massive right wing hell hole online and people don’t realize it. This is the sort of bold shyt you’re seeing conservatives openly discussing now

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Shyt like is why I don't really give a rat's ass about the migrant situation when we got Folks like this in our government actively trying to sabotage our livelyhood.

These mfers out here trying to use old pseudoscience to justify rolling back civil rights.
 

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If black people are simply inferior to whites intellectually it explains every disparity gap (education, income, crime, etc) in America. It also means that any policy meant to address those things by working towards equality is a fool's errand because black people can't be equal. If we're simply too dumb then our academic performance cannot be improved, and DEI or affirmative action programs then become little more than dangerous attempts to put unqualified, mentally stunted black people into positions they cannot possibly handle or be qualified for. It changes the entire conservative approach to the welfare state (preserve it for white people and systematically remove black people from it).

It should be clear that given these policy implications, ignoring this stuff does a public disservice to society.
 

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If black people are simply inferior to whites intellectually it explains every disparity gap (education, income, crime, etc) in America. It also means that any policy meant to address those things by working towards equality is a fool's errand because black people can't be equal. If we're simply too dumb then our academic performance cannot be improved, and DEI or affirmative action programs then become little more than dangerous attempts to put unqualified, mentally stunted black people into positions they cannot possibly handle or be qualified for. It changes the entire conservative approach to the welfare state (preserve it for white people and systematically remove black people from it).

It should be clear that given these policy implications, ignoring this stuff does a public disservice to society.
Why would anyone Ignore it piff?
 

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Why would anyone Ignore it piff?

Academic and scientific bodies (universities, groups, etc) decide something is taboo and ignore it. Meanwhile the proponents keep talking about it, keep building it, keep it alive until something magical happens: social media arrives, and perhaps more importantly Elon Musk (a Boer racist) buys Twitter. Race science has always been around in America but you could argue it has become far more discussed and propagated since Elon bought twitter. Now a relatively normal person with normal views can be exposed to various weird racial IQ profiles on twitter. And if you click them one time, it gets added to your algorithm going forward. These are rabbit holes of indoctrination and extremism that are being deliberately spread by Elon.

I think Will Stancil is correct that liberals have spent a lot of time ignoring these things instead of confronting them. Now to be fair, I understand arguments about platforming. It's why I simply refuse to engage with people who are engagement/hate farming or being disingenuous, like Candace Owens. But this is something else entirely. If Stancil, who is basically just a random policy nerd on twitter, can easily manhandle these weirdo racists intellectually, how hard would it be for actual academics to dunk on this stuff in an academic setting? This should have been done 20 years ago. Frankly even longer, it should have been done when the Bell Curve book came out in the mid 90s. Instead it wasn't confronted properly, academics started ignoring it and here we are today.
 

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Academic and scientific bodies (universities, groups, etc) decide something is taboo and ignore it. Meanwhile the proponents keep talking about it, keep building it, keep it alive until something magical happens: social media arrives, and perhaps more importantly Elon Musk (a Boer racist) buys Twitter. Race science has always been around in America but you could argue it has become far more discussed and propagated since Elon bought twitter. Now a relatively normal person with normal views can be exposed to various weird racial IQ profiles on twitter. And if you click them one time, it gets added to your algorithm going forward. These are rabbit holes of indoctrination and extremism that are being deliberately spread by Elon.

I think Will Stancil is correct that liberals have spent a lot of time ignoring these things instead of confronting them. Now to be fair, I understand arguments about platforming. It's why I simply refuse to engage with people who are engagement/hate farming or being disingenuous, like Candace Owens. But this is something else entirely. If Stancil, who is basically just a random policy nerd on twitter, can easily manhandle these weirdo racists intellectually, how hard would it be for actual academics to dunk on this stuff in an academic setting? This should have been done 20 years ago. Frankly even longer, it should have been done when the Bell Curve book came out in the mid 90s. Instead it wasn't confronted properly, academics started ignoring it and here we are today.
Why do you think they ignored it? Seems that it would have been fairly easy to combat.
 
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