Jeremy Shockey was better than Rob Gronkowski

[West Coast Avenger]

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[Greenhornet]

not a big football fan but both are beasts

 

[Remote]

Y'all are too easy on here.

 

[get these nets]

He didnt have a major day but Shockey caught the td that put the Saints up before the porter pick



oh, and give me Gronk over Shockey.

You're right.

 

[feelosofer]

Absolutely not and I thonk Shockey was underrated.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Ranking TE's is shrouded in recency bias because of usage.

Tony Gonzalez, Kellen Winslow, Shockey, are top ten players at the position all time. I'm taking them way over dudes like Witten, Ertz, and even Jimmy Graham.

 

[Max Power]

He was immature, and teams were better WITHOUT him. Giants AND Saints won rings with him on the roster but not playing/inactive.

He caught a touchdown in the Saints Super Bowl, but you're right on the Giants. He could barely stay healthy by then.

 

[get these nets]

He caught a touchdown in the Saints Super Bowl, but you're right on the Giants. He could barely stay healthy by then.

Yeah, I was wrong about him not playing for the Saints ring. My point wasn't about his injuries, it was that even with a lesser player in his slot, the Giants were a better team during that run. He was a headcase.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Yeah, I was wrong about him not playing for the Saints ring. My point wasn't about his injuries, it was that even with a lesser player in his slot, the Giants were a better team during that run. He was a headcase.

Bullshyt sports media narrative even back then. The whole team were headcases and Coughlin was an old school disciplinarian in the middle of being changed by a veteran team who could win without his bullshyt.

That team won in 2007 because Coughlin changed his approach (letting Strahan play all year without practicing etc) not because a productive TE didn't play. Which btw he played basically all season and missed only the playoffs.

 

[WhatsGoodTy]

I like you breh…but…I ought knock the batteries out your @Remote

 

[Elim Garak]

Be a Jeremy Shockey stan brehs.

 

[Remote]

I like you breh…but…I ought knock the batteries out your @Remote

Y'all are too easy on here.

 

[Remote]

Be a Jeremy Shockey stan brehs.

 

[get these nets]

Bullshyt sports media narrative even back then. The whole team were headcases and Coughlin was an old school disciplinarian in the middle of being changed by a veteran team who could win without his bullshyt.

That team won in 2007 because Coughlin changed his approach (letting Strahan play all year without practicing etc) not because a productive TE didn't play. Which btw he played basically all season and missed only the playoffs.

Shockey was a dikkhead, he got a pass for things that other star players were villified for. His penalties for celebrations/taunting were excused because "he showed passion", calling out coaches and other dumb ass comments were excused.
Look up the way he moved after he was out, and the team progressed in the playoffs that year, and you will see that the locker room and player morale improved without him.
Addition, by subtraction.

And who were the other "headcases"?

 

[Black Hans]

Word on them NFL streets is that Shockey is a snitch, tho, so he's disqualified