Jay-Z Battling on the streets of New York in 1993

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I disagree. I think Jay’s peak was 1996 and he never got better. He didn’t get worse until post retirement but he never got better imo.


This is a fair argument. But I cud argue Vol. 2 Jay had a better flow. Lyrics may not have been as potent but not far behind RD.

Still...if u hear early Kane, Nas and Redman, they sound on par with their first album. Pre RD Jay was like a 3 then he became 4.5 in a flash. Only other person I see do that was GFK.
 

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^^Jay was made to rip those smooth Clark Kent type joints..........shyt like this and coming of age, etc. by the time Sauce Money dropped his LP Clark had become such a wack producer.....shyt made no sense. he was one of the main reasons middle finger u was mediocre
 

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^^Jay was made to rip those smooth Clark Kent type joints..........shyt like this and coming of age, etc. by the time Sauce Money dropped his LP Clark had become such a wack producer.....shyt made no sense. he was one of the main reasons middle finger u was mediocre
Clark Kent only did two beats on that album
 

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I've never heard/seen the "infamous" battle he did with X.
Nobody has. All the infamous Jay battles I want to see, Jay had confirmed he battled

Busta Rhymes, Busta admitted Jay beat him
GZA, Jay claims he won
DMX, mixed reviews
Bizzy Bone, mixed reviews
LL Cool J, LL walked off
AZ, AZ claims there was no winner
I know Jay came to battle Big L on his block for money but they ended up just ciphering
 
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Nobody has. All the infamous Jay battles I want to see, Jay had confirmed he battled

Busta Rhymes, Busta admitted Jay beat him
GZA, Jay claims he won
DMX, mixed reviews
Bizzy Bone, mixed reviews
LL Cool J, LL walked off
AZ, AZ claims there was no winner
I know Jay came to battle Big L on his block for money but they ended up just ciphering

Yeah.

I really want to see the GZA and LL 1s. I gotta see what kind of pocket GZA and LL was in.

LL walking off could've been 1 of too things if true; frustrated or laughing cause he could't believe Jay was coming with some shyt if Jay was spitting fire.
 

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Yeah.

I really want to see the GZA and LL 1s. I gotta see what kind of pocket GZA and LL was in.

LL walking off could've been 1 of too things if true; frustrated or laughing cause he could't believe Jay was coming with some shyt if Jay was spitting fire.
They say LL never said a bar, Jay stepped to him outside a club and started battling him and LL basically brushed him off on some "Get signed first little nikka" lmao
 

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Busta Rhymes, Busta admitted Jay beat him
GZA, Jay claims he won
DMX, mixed reviews
Bizzy Bone, mixed reviews
LL Cool J, LL walked off
AZ, AZ claims there was no winner
I know Jay came to battle Big L on his block for money but they ended up just ciphering

 
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