Jamaicans and Africans goin in on Black Americans over Adele

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

The youngbul with nationality ADHD running from timezone to timezone trying to call a man who family lineage been here 300+ years "insecure".

What country your people got ran out of kid?

the young bull with stale jokes and a hopeless outlook running around tryna put breaks on everyone else progression. but we jumping time zones fukk a rat race. Asian can go from Hong Kong to San Fran no problems. White people can go from Berlin to NY no problems but here come these bucke crab nikkaz telling us how to move and where. ironic given history that you are fighting to limit our reach compared to everyone else. In ever increasing global economies we should be left out of the transcontinental business moves.

yes that's why I said its JEALOUSY.

 

[kingofnyc]

He didn't say flowers created hip hop, he said they were influenced by him which is true. Do y'all know hip hop history? It was for kids, and they were emulating the older people being that they couldn't get into the nightclubs

Secondly, it's an exaggeration to include Latins, even West Indians, because for one, West Indians weren't here in large numbers in the early 70s, and Puerto ricans didn't fukk with blacks like that. Grandmaster caz said this in his vlad interview. Krs-one said on drink champs people in the Bronx never heard the dancehall flow on "bridge is over" and that's how he got his name. If West Indians were all over the place why would it be new to them?

Cedd gee talks hip hop origins in this vlad video but y'all don't care about the truth, you just repeat the same thing even when illmaticdelta constantly proves himself.



Y'all herb nikkas are part of the reason I fell out of love with hip hop. I lived this shyt from the early 80's, and saw who hated it, and who loved it, but now that it's big y'all changed history with lies. I went to the nightclubs, the block parties, the record spots, knew the rappers, the dancers, the street guys, in brooklyn, manhattan, uptown, only to have nikkas tell me what they read in the source in one article about shyt I lived. I just talk to my older peers, and our baby got lies told on her by nikkas we would have herbed but y'all all over the net or media, so y'all changed the truth. @IllmaticDelta I give you credit, I can't do it, these people don't care about the truth.

I don’t understand why you get so emotional when the truth is what I said
it was a collective of the 3 groups that created the entire culture

and the audacity of yourself to call me a herb ass nikka - when I pretty much certain that I’m older than you and I was born and raised in the Bronx ... Edenwald projects I live literally 4 blocks away from Slick Rick , 6 blocks away from Funk Master Flex , 10 minutes from Grandmaster Flash

I don’t know where the hell you lived, but damn sure in the Bronx there was nothing but West Indians and Puerto Ricans back in the 70s

And what was the purpose of linking Ced Gee when he himself stated what I’ve been saying over and over and over you and @IllmaticDelta .... for whatever reason y’all fail to acknowledge him saying all the DJs that y’all keep putting out there did NOT fukk with hip-hop at all they were strictly disco DJs & hated hip-hop

 

[truth2you]

I don’t understand why you get so emotional when the truth is what I said
it was a collective of the 3 groups that created the entire culture

and the audacity of yourself to call me a herb ass nikka - when I pretty much certain that I’m older than you and I was born and raised in the Bronx ... Edenwald projects I live literally 4 blocks away from Slick Rick , 6 blocks away from Funk Master Flex , 10 minutes from Grandmaster Flash

I don’t know where the hell you lived, but damn sure in the Bronx there was nothing but West Indians and Puerto Ricans back in the 70s

And what was the purpose of linking Ced Gee when he himself stated what I’ve been saying over and over and over you and @IllmaticDelta .... for whatever reason y’all fail to acknowledge him saying all the DJs that y’all keep putting out there did NOT fukk with hip-hop at all they were strictly disco DJs & hated hip-hop

My man I'm 43 yrs old from Flatbush brooklyn, and traveled all over nyc being in the weed cture, and hip hop culture, I lived this shyt when everyone just liked the music.

West Indians didn't come to the states in large numbers until the mid 70s, early 80s. Before that there were around 300,00-500,000 West Indians living in the states, and they were mostly in Brooklyn, Boston and Bronx, and Florida. That is not a lot of people when you take into account ADOS were 27,000,000 in 1980. In NYC we were around 1.5 million. And yes Puerto ricans were here in large numbers, they are u.s. citizens, but they didn't rock with blacks like that until the 80s with the breakingdancing. But I'm tired of repeating myself when you choose to ignore the truth. Like I said grandmaster cas said this himself, but you just keep ignoring it

My point is there were not many like it is now, but y'all are rewriting history when facts show what you say ain't true

Even if it were, they were still living ADOS culture so what is the point of bringing up their family background if it didn't contribute to the culture?

Secondly, the point of the ced gee video was showing where hip hop got it's influence from, not they created hip hop. This would be the THIRD time this was said but you.keep saying something other then that

Y'all nikkas act like weirdos, and do everything but deal with the truth, and stay continue to go off topic

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don’t understand why you get so emotional when the truth is what I said
it was a collective of the 3 groups that created the entire culture

Fuk outta here with that "3 groups" created the culture; it was ADOS at the head with Americanized West Indians following what ADOS was doing.

and the audacity of yourself to call me a herb ass nikka - when I pretty much certain that I’m older than you and I was born and raised in the Bronx ... Edenwald projects I live literally 4 blocks away from Slick Rick , 6 blocks away from Funk Master Flex , 10 minutes from Grandmaster Flash

I don’t know where the hell you lived, but damn sure in the Bronx there was nothing but West Indians and Puerto Ricans back in the 70s

stop lying, there's a reason West Indian music had no impact and was getting laughed at, as Herc and people who were there have already attested to.

And what was the purpose of linking Ced Gee when he himself stated what I’ve been saying over and over and over you and @IllmaticDelta .... for whatever reason y’all fail to acknowledge him saying all the DJs that y’all keep putting out there did NOT fukk with hip-hop at all they were strictly disco DJs & hated hip-hop

disco king mario was a hiphop dj and dj kool dee played disco in the clubs and hiphop in the parks[/QUOTE]

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Yes, because TheColi is very credible and sourced when it comes to hip hop

Truth hurts, let it go.

you cant just speak shyt into existence

yes the creators of Gospel/spiritual
The blues and all its derivatives
JAZZ and all its derivative genres
Soul music
RandB and its derivatives
Funk
Disco
House and its offshoots
Techno
Hip hop
Rock music

Needed help from anyone to create music

 

[truth2you]

Fuk outta here with that "3 groups" created the culture; it was ADOS at the head with Americanized West Indians following what ADOS was doing.




stop lying, there's a reason West Indian music had no impact and was getting laughed at, as Herc and people who were there have already attested to.

disco king mario was a hiphop dj and dj kool dee played disco in the clubs and hiphop in the parks

[/QUOTE]
All he's gonna do is start talking some other shyt

I just want to hear his answer to what is the point of bringing up their family background if it didn't contribute to what they were doing?

To me the fact that other groups got love showed how ADOS ain't no foul people, but these herbs took that and turned into something else

 

[IllmaticDelta]

All he's gonna do is start talking some other shyt

I just want to hear his answer to what is the point of bringing up their family background if it didn't contribute to what they were doing?

To me the fact that other groups got love showed how ADOS ain't no foul people, but these herbs took that and turned into something else

if west indians were as numerous/culturally popping as @kingofnyc is claiming, herc wouldn't have had to do this

 

[kingofnyc]

My man I'm 43 yrs old from Flatbush brooklyn, and traveled all over nyc being in the weed cture, and hip hop culture, I lived this shyt when everyone just liked the music.

West Indians didn't come to the states in large numbers until the mid 70s, early 80s. Before that there were around 300,00-500,000 West Indians living in the states, and they were mostly in Brooklyn, Boston and Bronx, and Florida. That is not a lot of people when you take into account ADOS were 27,000,000 in 1980. In NYC we were around 1.5 million. And yes Puerto ricans were here in large numbers, they are u.s. citizens, but they didn't rock with blacks like that until the 80s with the breakingdancing. But I'm tired of repeating myself when you choose to ignore the truth. Like I said grandmaster cas said this himself, but you just keep ignoring it

My point is there were not many like it is now, but y'all are rewriting history when facts show what you say ain't true

Even if it were, they were still living ADOS culture so what is the point of bringing up their family background if it didn't contribute to the culture?

Secondly, the point of the ced gee video was showing where hip hop got it's influence from, not they created hip hop. This would be the THIRD time this was said but you.keep saying something other then that

Y'all nikkas act like weirdos, and do everything but deal with the truth, and stay continue to go off topic

And like I said, I have you by several years and the fact I was born and raised in the Bronx there’s no Way in hell you are going to tell me about the demographics of my burrough in the early 70s when I was born

imma ADOS - Even though my pops was born in the Caribbean our lineage from our last name comes back to America - so I really have no dog in this fight and I don’t understand y’all getting emotionally triggered

 

[truth2you]

And like I said, I have you by several years and the fact I was born and raised in the Bronx there’s no Way in hell you are going to tell me about the demographics of my burrough in the early 70s when I was born

imma ADOS - Even though my pops was born in the Caribbean our lineage from our last name comes back to America - so I really have no dog in this fight and I don’t understand y’all getting emotionally triggered

So you're telling me the stats are lying now?

And please answer my question. What is the point of bringing up their family backgrounds if it didn't contribute to the art?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Even if it were, they were still living ADOS culture so what is the point of bringing up their family background if it didn't contribute to the culture?

This is the smoking gun question

Everyone created utilizing the the afram music operating system. And afram yankee-urban street culture. That's prevalent in nyc among blacks,caribbeans and latinos till this day

 

[kingofnyc]

Fuk outta here with that "3 groups" created the culture; it was ADOS at the head with Americanized West Indians following what ADOS was doing.




stop lying, there's a reason West Indian music had no impact and was getting laughed at, as Herc and people who were there have already attested to.

disco king mario was a hiphop dj and dj kool dee played disco in the clubs and hiphop in the parks

[/QUOTE]

if west indians were as numerous/culturally popping as @kingofnyc is claiming, herc wouldn't have had to do this

y’all, nikkaz need help

 

[IllmaticDelta]

And like I said, I have you by several years and the fact I was born and raised in the Bronx there’s no Way in hell you are going to tell me about the demographics of my burrough in the early 70s when I was born

Dude, my mother was born and raised in the 50s South Bronx, she even has half Jamaican siblings (my aunts and uncles) . She stands by it, that Jamaican music/culture wasn't popping in the 70s Bronx. Outside of ADOS music, she says that Nuyorican music was the only "ethnic" music that was popping.







fat joe who is from the 1970's south bronx basically confirmed that he never heard reggae being played like that even in the early to mid 1980s which would be odd if their numbers were anywhere near ADOS




@1:28:00

In this recent interview with Fat Joe below, he was talking about Krs "Bridge Is Over" and said that was about the first time he heard Jamaican styled/flavor music and remember, he was street kid from the South Bronx and that was already in the mid 1980s....THIS IS VERY TELLING!!!

imma ADOS - Even though my pops was born in the Caribbean our lineage from our last name comes back to America - so I really have no dog in this fight and I don’t understand y’all getting emotionally triggered

 

[kingofnyc]

So you're telling me the stats are lying now?

And please answer my question. What is the point of bringing up their family backgrounds if it didn't contribute to the art?

what stats are u referring too - because according to Wikipedia in 1970s there was 1.2 million Spanish people living in New York City obviously they don’t break down how many Caribbean/West Indians because we are all included as Black, so again with stats are you talking about


as far as bringing up family’s background I believe your beef is not with me it’s with the other poster you can take that up with him

 

[Dro_Pesci]

Dude, my mother was born and raised in the 50s South Bronx, she even has half Jamaican siblings (my aunts and uncles) . She's stands by it, that Jamaican music/culture wasn't popping in the 70s Bronx. Outside of ADOS music, she says that Nuyorican music was the only "ethnic" music that was popping.







fat joe who is from the 1970's south bronx basically confirmed that he never heard reggae being played like that even in the early to mid 1980s which would be odd if their numbers were anywhere near ADOS




@1:28:00

In this recent interview with Fat Joe below, he was talking about Krs "Bridge Is Over" and said that was about the first time he heard Jamaican styled/flavor music and remember, he was street kid from the South Bronx and that was already in the mid 1980s....THIS IS VERY TELLING!!!

Nivvas emulate so much they start to believe its theirs

 

[kingofnyc]

Dude, my mother was born and raised in the 50s South Bronx, she even has half Jamaican siblings (my aunts and uncles) . She's stands by it, that Jamaican music/culture wasn't popping in the 70s Bronx. Outside of ADOS music, she says that Nuyorican music was the only "ethnic" music that was popping.







fat joe who is from the 1970's south bronx basically confirmed that he never heard reggae being played like that even in the early to mid 1980s which would be odd if their numbers were anywhere near ADOS




@1:28:00

In this recent interview with Fat Joe below, he was talking about Krs "Bridge Is Over" and said that was about the first time he heard Jamaican styled/flavor music and remember, he was street kid from the South Bronx and that was already in the mid 1980s....THIS IS VERY TELLING!!!

like I just told @truth2you
i believe yall are confusing me with the other poster because the both of y’all are bringing up stuff that I haven’t even stated or claimed
I don’t even believe I’ve ever stated that Reggae, Dancehall, Caribbean music was a big thing in The Bronx as I was coming up ... as a matter of fact I really never even been a fan of that type of music