Jalen Hurts is going back to those old habits.

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The issue with Jaylen's weaknesses is how easy it is to exploit for the top teams.

If you have a QB like that, you can just contain him, or blitz him.

Nick Bosa himself said it. Jaylen looks at the rush. If you just contain him and prevent him from getting outside, he's less effective.

Dallas did with some blitzes thrown in, and he was slow to react.

As long as you can stop the run, it's over.

The worst part about this is that Jaylen has this issue while having a great o-line and receivers and TE. So imagine if Hurts just had a regular good decent o-line, and just 1 great receivers like what other QBs have.

talking about how great the o line and receivers are, while dissolving them from blame during the past 2 weeks (since that seems to be your sample size of "top teams") is disingenuous. the entire offense (including jalen) was awful vs the cowboys with devonta probably having the worst game of his nfl career. there were missed assignments on the o line & zero pass protection from the backs at least chipping a blitz. i don't think it's that he's necessary "slow to react" when blitzed, the offense is just horribly schemed and has no hot reads built in for blitzes 14 weeks in. also, dudes aren't running all over the field wide open 24/7 like a niners or dolphins offense :hubie:.


 

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talking about how great the o line and receivers are, while dissolving them from blame during the past 2 weeks (since that seems to be your sample size of "top teams") is disingenuous. the entire offense (including jalen) was awful vs the cowboys with devonta probably having the worst game of his nfl career. there were missed assignments on the o line & zero pass protection from the backs at least chipping a blitz. i don't think it's that he's necessary "slow to react" when blitzed, the offense is just horribly schemed and has no hot reads built in for blitzes 14 weeks in. also, dudes aren't running all over the field wide open 24/7 like a niners or dolphins offense :hubie:.



There are receivers aren't always wide open i agree with that. but AJ brown is still damn excellent and reeling in contested catches.

And the problem with the missed assignments is that hurts himself isn't setting protections. He relies a lot on Kelce to do that for him, which I don't think is good sinc Hurts is in his fourth season and Kelce won't play forever

I am not absolving them of blame, more so that i am trying to point out that Hurts needs to be able to be effective in games where his line isn't playing great. We've seen other guys like Burrow, even Allen and Herbert (lol) deal with worse lines than what Hurts played with during those two weeks.
 

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There are receivers aren't always wide open i agree with that. but AJ brown is still damn excellent and reeling in contested catches.

And the problem with the missed assignments is that hurts himself isn't setting protections. He relies a lot on Kelce to do that for him, which I don't think is good sinc Hurts is in his fourth season and Kelce won't play forever

I am not absolving them of blame, more so that i am trying to point out that Hurts needs to be able to be effective in games where his line isn't playing great. We've seen other guys like Burrow, even Allen and Herbert (lol) deal with worse lines than what Hurts played with during those two weeks.

cosign on the kelce point. i think it's a coaching problem that hurts doesn't have more control at the line when it comes to shifting protections, etc, but at the same time kelce will go down as arguably the GOAT center so i've always been :manny: towards it.
 

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cosign on the kelce point. i think it's a coaching problem that hurts doesn't have more control at the line when it comes to shifting protections, etc, but at the same time kelce will go down as arguably the GOAT center so i've always been :manny: towards it.
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I don’t think he’s an elite quarterback. He throws off his back foot way too often with happy feet.

There’s a skittish element to his play in the pocket that he needs to overcome that used to frustrate the fukk out of me when he played at OU. Then I saw him do it in front of me at MetLife this year. And I’m not supposed to talk about it because you and the Johnny come lately Eagles fans want to be sensitive bytches?
That dont mean he aint elite tho fam lol, that’s just your opinion which is cool but you could literally do the exact same thing for all the other elite qbs in the league. That’s why im trying to figure out the grand point of this thread but there doesnt seem to be one

And stop projecting nikka, you the one getting defensive every time people dont agree with your goofy ass logic lmao it’s called sports debate
 
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The issue with Jaylen's weaknesses is how easy it is to exploit for the top teams.

If you have a QB like that, you can just contain him, or blitz him.

Nick Bosa himself said it. Jaylen looks at the rush. If you just contain him and prevent him from getting outside, he's less effective.

Dallas did with some blitzes thrown in, and he was slow to react.

As long as you can stop the run, it's over.

The worst part about this is that Jaylen has this issue while having a great o-line and receivers and TE. So imagine if Hurts just had a regular good decent o-line, and just 1 great receivers like what other QBs have.
Now this is a fair point however I feel like this is a coaching issue more than anything tbh. They need a different approach to these teams jalen just needs to protect the ball
 

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That dont mean he aint elite tho fam lol, that’s just your opinion which is cool but you could literally do the exact same thing for all the other elite qbs in the league. That’s why im trying to figure out the grand point of this thread but there doesnt seem to be one

And stop projecting nikka, you the one getting defensive every time people dont agree with your goofy ass logic lmao it’s called sports debate
He’s not elite to me and you are being sensitive about it and my right to speak on the problems that I see in his game.

Those are the facts regarding the timeline of our conversation. You feel the way when I had no conversation with you ever on this site prior to this first time picking on him, now it’s an elite argument. I have been saying the same thing about dude for five years, and you say I picked on him like he’s the smallest runt in the litter. He’s a grown ass man that can stand on his own 2 feet and doesn’t need someone babying him online. You’re an eagle fan who wants to constantly hear reassurance. I never knew Eagles fans were such sensitive bytches.
 
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He’s not elite to me and you are being sensitive about it and my right to speak on the problems that I see in his game.

Those are the facts regarding the timeline of our conversation. You feel the way when I had no conversation with you ever on this site prior to this first time picking on him, now it’s an elite argument. I have been saying the same thing about dude for five years, and you say I picked on him like he’s the smallest runt in the litter. He’s a grown ass man that can stand on his own 2 feet and doesn’t need someone babying him online. You’re an eagle fan who wants to constantly hear reassurance. I never knew Eagles fans were such sensitive bytches.
How is me disagreeing with your goofy logic babying him tho lol like I said it’s called sports debate, nikkas dont always have to agree with you

And also im curious, if I made a thread nitpicking every bad tendency mahomes has and chiefs fans say “yea but he’s literally the best qb in the league” would I be able to say they just dikkriding and babying him? Just curious
 

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How is me disagreeing with your goofy logic babying him tho lol like I said it’s called sports debate, nikkas dont always have to agree with you

And also im curious, if I made a thread nitpicking every bad tendency mahomes has and chiefs fans say “yea but he’s literally the best qb in the league” would I be able to say they just dikkriding and babying him? Just curious
You don’t disagree. Bosa and others are bad
How is me disagreeing with your goofy logic babying him tho lol like I said it’s called sports debate, nikkas dont always have to agree with you

And also im curious, if I made a thread nitpicking every bad tendency mahomes has and chiefs fans say “yea but he’s literally the best qb in the league” would I be able to say they just dikkriding and babying him? Just curious
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Im done here. He needs to stop being skittish when facing a rush or thinking one is coming.

Even MAGA sees it.
 

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Yo you love ducking the hard questions :mjlol:
I’m not the ol “ stop picking on him “ ass niqqa on this thread 😂

I honestly never knew eagles fans were a bunch of crybaby ass bytches until talking about a guy they didn’t give a fukk about until he became eagle.
 

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@Box Factory I forgot youre an Eagles fan. No wonder youre supporting these crybaby “youre picking on him” ass niqqas
 

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I’m not mad at all. I just don’t understand why it’s something that still a on when I never had no problem willing to learn. Right now I’m trying to get some kids in the New Jersey area out to some camps this spring, along with my son, so they can get into some of these major high schools. I have a healthy respect for the game, but it conflicts with how things operate in here. It’s an observation, but it conflicts with how things operate in here. It’s a observation. Not anger. yall don’t have real footbal discussion because you think it’s a stan war. I don’t have real football discussions because you think it’s a stan war. It wasn’t always like that having football discussions in here.
Let that be your vibe, but don’t a the way when I’m properly calling shyt out for what it is. And that’s what it indeed is :manny:

Naw gotta call bullshyt. You’ve been on this site & SOHH way too long to think you could make a knee jerk reaction as a thread and that posters wouldn’t call you out on it repeatedly when you’re wrong

Moral of the story: If you don’t want smoke on a bad take, don’t post
 
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