J. Cole - 2014 Forest Hills Drive (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

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this album is terrible. I don't know how yall listen to this dude.. I like some of his tracks in the past but he has not evolved at all. He needs better production and needs to figure out if wants to be conscious or ignorant rapper cause he sucks at both right now.

Different strokes I guess breh. To me J Cole is probably the dopest lyricist of this generation (IMO). And I dig his ignorant conscious shyt he spitting because that's me. I'm a pan African but I still smoke weed, fukk bytches, and get drunk. It's the ying and yang of most black men I think :ehh:
 

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Different strokes I guess breh. To me J Cole is probably the dopest lyricist of this generation (IMO). And I dig his ignorant conscious shyt he spitting because that's me. I'm a pan African but I still smoke weed, fukk bytches, and get drunk. It's the ying and yang of most black men I think :ehh:
:manny: real shyt, no man is one way, we all have vices, which is the reason dude is mad relatable
 

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even though this song isn't on the album can we please talk about cole's verse? :wow:
the conviction and truth within those bars are to potent

Death to the imposters, label me the king
My dreams could win Oscars, my nikkas turned mobsters
My white friends doctors, fatherless child

Listen how I got this knowledge is wild
Streets taught me, speak softly nikka watch from the crowd
Cause any nikka that's loud, just want attention and eventually
blaow

No fake nikkas allowed in my circle dawg
You been through half the shyt I been through it'll hurt ya dawg
Tread softly
, my nikka moving state to state running late watch 'em
Tryna avoid state troopers, that's the weight watchers
Run this dope set this cake till they say "Gotcha"

Or till the fat lady sings, and nikkas hate operas
And Oprah hate nikkas
Make no mistake that we know the stake still, we hope to make over eight figures
Slim chances, but nikkas bet against the odds and who am I to criticise how you play your cards dawg


[Verse 3: J. Cole]
Look, I never admit it, tryna get my brother acquitted
Yo' tell the judge I be happy to pay him off if he's with it
My flesh and blood, hauled off to the cell
I search for heaven as I see him getting lost in this hell

Headed for coffin or jail, to never try is the ultimate fail
But love is wanting more for someone than they want for themselves
Deep, I guess I love a lot

Because the more I do my thang the more I feel the guilt and shame that my brother's not
Reminisce as we was kids screaming "fukk a cop"
Guess he took it serious, for me that shyt was just for props

Arms too skinny to hug the block
I found comfort in my dreams, of things seen on the screen of fortune and fame
Decisions, decisions, the Porsche or the Range
I take a trip back to the 'Ville only corpses remain
Some of them nikkas still breathing but they dead inside
Victims of a genocide
Tears fill my eyes dawg

:wow::mjcry:


Breh you can here that shyt in his voice that he meant those bars :brehwow:
 

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His singing on some of these songs really hold them back from being better records.

Go get a vocalist to elevate the song man. It's like how he was going to sing the hook for "Nobody's Perfect" but then reached out and let Missy sing it. Song turned out lovely. I can't help but wonder how much better some of these songs would have been if he had some body who was better at singing sing the lyrics he is on here.

Maybe he should look into signing a vocalist to his label or some shyt.

What songs you think would benefit the most?
 

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This album has made me come to the realization that Cole is always gonna be what he be... An above average MC with signs of potential, that is stuck in his ways 3 albums in, just like Drake... If your formula hasn't progressed whatsoever by album number 3, taking no chances, you'll never truly be considered one of the greats. Kendrick's taken more artistic chances with GKMC alone, than these "next" dudes' whole discography's.

Give some examples breh
 

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:manny: real shyt, no man is one way, we all have vices, which is the reason dude is mad relatable

Exactly. Like real talk I never did no dirt but I had family and friends who definitely did. I wasn't a street dude but I lived in the hood. There's millions of nikkas like me out there, and I always wondered why hip hop only focused on the gangstas/hustles in our community.
 
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