I've Been Studying The Bible, Qu'ran, Hadith And The Teachings Of Elijah Muhammad For 20 Years...AMA

[ReturnOfJudah]

So who is the comforter, helper, and holy spirit that The Christ speaks so highly of??
John 14:16
"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 15:26
"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

John 16:7
"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

John 16:8
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;

John 16:13
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

The holy spirit aka holy ghost is the spirit the Lord gives people that are holy. When you start going off and not follow GOD's commandment he removes the spirit from you. Here is proof
1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.


When Jesus was baptised the Holy Spirit descended on him

Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


The holy ghost is the comforter. And im not talking about this holy ghost

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

your own verses you posted explains what the comforter is. It's the Holy Spirit. It says it over and over again lol

So who is the Holy Spirit...is it a mystery ghost? or a man?

 

[Lewis Black]

Jesus never died. So OP idk what you're talking about.

Islam teaches that he was taken up to heaven, and since he's alive, it is him who will return to earth on the day of Judgment.

Also to the dude that asked about slavery, no Muslims don't permit slaves, but discussion about slaves you gotta consider the context of 7th-8th century Arabia where having slaves were common. Even in those circumstances, the slaves had to be treated with dignity and respect. And with respect to what the Prophet had, they were PRISONERS of WAR, not slaves. Different.

This is why I dislike a lot of these black Muslims

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

So who is the Holy Spirit...is it a mystery ghost? or a man?

Its a spirit inside of the people that keeps GOD's commandments. Once you start going off and do evil the holy spirit leaves you.

Numbers 11:17
And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.

Psalm 143:10
Teach me to do thy will; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness.

The holy spirit aka holy ghost is the spirit the Lord gives people that are holy. When you start going off and not follow GOD's commandment he removes the spirit from you. Here is proof
1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.


When Jesus was baptised the Holy Spirit descended on him

Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

1 Samuel 10:6
And the Spirit of the LORD will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.

Nehemiah 9:20

Thou gavest also thy good spirit to instruct them, and withheldest not thy manna from their mouth, and gavest them water for their thirst.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


The holy ghost is the comforter. And im not talking about this holy ghost

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

Its a spirit inside of the people that keeps GOD's commandments. Once you start going off and do evil the holy spirit leaves you.

Few inconsistencies there...but a simple question...if God and the Holy Spirit are ghosts...then why are they referred to as HE??? where does the humanistic distinction come from??

 

[richaveli83]

What made you start studying the teachings of Elijah Muhammad? I used to be in the NOI and still have some family and friends in the NOI. I'm not really religious anymore but was curious on why you study @KRS-TWO

 

[MegaManX]

Didnt say he was more important...There's a book called "The World's 35 Crucified Saviors" or some shyt like that...there are literally dozens of people with the same story...the difference is that there is actual physical evidence of biblical events i.e Noah's Ark...so with all things considered The Christ's story has the most consistency, especially since it can be corroborated by the Qur'an

Noah's ark is the Epic of Gilgamesh...

The Quran, is the third book of the bible.


You call the Quran evidence for the Bible? Really?

Let me use that logic.

"Clearly "The Hobbit" is a true story because a lot of war and turmoil was in our past and "The Lord of the Rings" corroborates the story."

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

What made you start studying the teachings of Elijah Muhammad? I used to be in the NOI and still have some family and friends in the NOI. I'm not really religious anymore but was curious on why you study.

My sister put on some Farrakhan videotapes when I was around 9...and I been hooked ever since

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Few inconsistencies there...but a simple question...if God and the Holy Spirit are ghosts...then why are they referred to as HE??? where does the humanistic distinction come from??

GOD isn't a man (flesh & blood) he is a spirit. But GOD still is reffered to as "he" alt throughout the bible. So the same applies for the Holy Spirit.

So spirits came be called "male/he/him" but that dont means its actually flesh and blood . The holy spirit enters people. GOD is a spirit that sends down his spirit to enter his people that are obedient to him


John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

 

[richaveli83]

My sister put on some Farrakhan videotapes when I was around 9...and I been hooked ever since

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

So who is the Holy Spirit...is it a mystery ghost? or a man?

He explained it to you already, the holy spirit is not a man it is the spirit of God who dwells within us once we accepted Jesus Christ as our lord and saviour.

1 corinthians 3:16, Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and the spirit of God dwelleth in you.

But you say you have read the bible tho so you should know this

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Few inconsistencies there...but a simple question...if God and the Holy Spirit are ghosts...then why are they referred to as HE??? where does the humanistic distinction come from??

He is not a humanistic distiction. Angels are spiritual beings also and they are referred to as the SONS of God, you have the angel michael and gabriel. Angels were created before man for the distinction of being male pre-exists mans creation

Another thing you should know if you have indeed read the bible

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

GOD isn't a man (flesh & blood) he is a spirit. But GOD still is reffered to as "he" alt throughout the bible. So the same applies for the Holy Spirit.

So spirits came be called "male/he/him" but that dont means its actually flesh and blood . The holy spirit enters people. GOD is a spirit that sends down his spirit to enter his people that are obedient to him


John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So if God is a spirit why does he have so many humanistic traits...he speaks, he sees, he hears, he walks, he hates, he loves, he's jealous, he's vengeful, he's just .....God said, Let us make man in our image... so if it's the same image that God and others "Us" created man in...then wouldn't those images be the same

If God is a spirit wouldn't we be spirits if we were created in the same image??

 

[Losttribe]

If only in english (al Quran and hadith)then it doesn't count!

No true

The Quran was revealed in Arabic, but God promised to be its teacher (55:1-4) and the One to explain it (75:18-19). God told us in the verse (41:44) that language is irrelevant, and that only the sincere ones are going to understand the Quran irrespective of their language; while those who are not sincere or failed to worship Him alone will fail to understand it, even if they speak, read, and write Arabic (56:79).

In a lot of non-Arabic speaking countries Muslims are forced as children to read the Quran in Arabic and still as adults read the Quran in Arabic but they do not understand a single word of what they read. What good is it to read the Quran like a parrot without understanding its meanings or like a donkey carrying valuable books (62:5)? It does not make any sense. The blessing of the Quran does not come by just reading it, but it comes by understanding it and accepting its message. The majority of those who learn Arabic to study the Quran do not excel enough to understand the implications or interpretations of certain words when used in a special way in the Arabic language. Therefore, if you wait until you become a good Arabic speaking person, you may waste a lot of precious time of your life before being able to read the Quran.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

So if God is a spirit why does he have so many humanistic traits...he speaks, he sees, he hears, he walks, he hates, he loves, he's jealous, he's vengeful, he's just .....God said, Let us make man in our image... so if it's the same image that God and others "Us" created man in...then wouldn't those images be the same

If God is a spirit wouldn't we be spirits if we were created in the same image??

Because GOD created us to be like him, but in a flesh & blood form. Just like GOD rules the heavens, we were created to rule this planet. But instead of ruling righteously being the GODS we were designed to be, we decided to go off and act like animals

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


John 10:35
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;