It's time to admit the Cold War was just a CMIC hoax

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The Cold War was about the different sides exerting spheres of influence in different sections of the world.

With the fall of the Western supported regime in Cuba, and Castro's rise......the Cold War was essentially near America's doorstep. With the threat of Communism spreading in the region.
 

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The Cold War was about the different sides exerting spheres of influence in different sections of the world.

With the fall of the Western supported regime in Cuba, and Castro's rise......the Cold War was essentially near America's doorstep. With the threat of Communism spreading in the region.

Batista was a corrupt dictator robbing his country blind. We should have supported a legit democracy instead we supported him because he was Team USA and that got us USSR-backed rebels. We indirectly created lots of these Soviet-aligned states by backing the dictators they overthrew (like the Shah in Iran).
 

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Ok even if you’re right that means we still had about 2 decades of propagandistic bullshyt about the USSR being America’s military and geopolitical equal or superior used to justify coups of democratically elected governments so US corporations could control their resources

It's really not that simple and the Soviets were responsible for the same thing you're taking issue with America doing during the decades that they were no longer an "equal".

The space race was still happening, there were still advancements in nuclear and conventional armaments, there were still coups and repressions happening internally and around the world.

It's not like there was some magic date where the US could throw their hands in the air and say this is no longer an issue.

Also not for nothing but the standard of living in the US was enviable at the time for most of the world. I'm not sure if the hypothetical we don't spend money on x we get y rings true.
 

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The Cold War was about the different sides exerting spheres of influence in different sections of the world.

With the fall of the Western supported regime in Cuba, and Castro's rise......the Cold War was essentially near America's doorstep. With the threat of Communism spreading in the region.
Castro didn’t turn to the USSR until the US tried to merk him. He didn’t become an avowed communist until after.

And the most dangerous thing the US did to our minds is make communism out to be the same as terrorism.
 

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It depends on what you consider the "cold war" to be.

In terms of a threat to American sovereignty, it was a bunch of bullshyt (though Red Dawn is still an all-time kick-ass propaganda movie)

In terms of a threat to American hegemony, it was very real. From Africa to Central America to Southeast Asia to South Asia to the Middle East, governments everywhere were trying to escape American/corporate control and run their own nations for the best benefit to their own people. That conflicted with American access to resources and corporate profits. We had to shut down the African socialists so we could maintain access to their mines, we had to shut down the Middle East oil nationalizers so our oil barons could extract their oil for ourselves, we had to shut down the Central American land distributors so our corporate farmers could keep the bananas and beef flowing, we had to shut down the Southeast Asian independence movements so our clothing and toy factories could continue to bank off cheap labor without interference. And USSR, however bullshyt they themselves were when it came to national sovereignty, was still the nation primarily funding and aiding small countries who tried to stand up to the USA. In that sense the Cold War was very real.
 
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