Its safe to say the Tiffany Haddish experiment has failed

[The Devil's Advocate]

I would argue that most comedians became movie stars based on a personality not their ability to act. No one expects Chevy Chase or Will Farrell to act like anything other than themselves. Adam Sandler, Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams, and Chris Rock (who arguably still struggles with versatility) are exceptions. Even Martin Lawrenceand Chris Tucker have the same schitck in different movie roles. The critique here doesn't make sense to me. You may not like her schitck but having one has been the bread and butter for most comedic actors since the beginning.

I get what you saying but that's the difference. You want to be an A list, you got to show a range. Even in comedy where they want YOU, you still gotta throw somewhat of a different spin on each one.. Or you get the same label Kevin Hart gets.. "He's just playing Kevin Hart in every movie"

People have tried to throw that on Denzel of all people. But it's quickly proven wrong with about 10 different ways... Take it to comedy and you named the guys who are themselves, yet put a different spin on each character

All her characters got the same phrases, faces, voice and level of hood to them. Don't matter if she's with the all bougie girl group or the smart designer lady... She's playing the ghetto black lady... Book it. You can't just do that for 15 films.. Even Aquafina stupid dumbass racist schtick got tired after her 2nd film... She quickly put that shyt away for other roles or that's all she'd ever be

Tiffany has the pull and the power to get herself into other shyt and show her range.. She's taking the easy money. Money is money, I don't fault her. But if we having a discussion on ACTING, then her acting has to be critiqued.. When she does stand up, her comedy has to be critiqued. fukk that "we can be mediocre too". I'm not cosigning mediocre shyt as anything more than that..... Mediocre.. And that's NO compliment in any profession

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

whut,...

adam sandler is just the mediocre bullshyt jerky boyz tapes on film.
only time he was great as an actor was opposite don cheadle.
where the star of the movie was him playing video games on a large screen.
i have not seen his new movie yet,...
yet and still.
adam sandler is you heard one skit on a jerky boyz tape.
you seen every adam sandler movie already.


art barr

See... I didn't say GREAT

What I said was, he switches it up... Yea it's still Adam being Adam... But one movie he's the devil's son with that stupid lisp... Another he's the old dad with family time with his old pals... Another he's adopting some lost kid.... Another he's a waterboy for a failed college.... Another he's.........................


And like Eddie, playing 100 different roles in his movies, it's all the same person... But each character gets it's own traits and humor and jokes and all that... It's not him being the same ass person for 10 movies straight literally. Like remove her out of any of these roles and stick that character into her other 10 movies... Interchangeable with no problems.. You can't stick Lil Nicky into the Waterboy... You can't stick Klump into Vampire in Brooklyn...


That role in Girls Trips could be teleported to any role posted in here and not one single word would get changed

 

[Art Barr]

See... I didn't say GREAT

What I said was, he switches it up... Yea it's still Adam being Adam... But one movie he's the devil's son with that stupid lisp... Another he's the old dad with family time with his old pals... Another he's adopting some lost kid.... Another he's a waterboy for a failed college.... Another he's.........................


And like Eddie, playing 100 different roles in his movies, it's all the same person... But each character gets it's own traits and humor and jokes and all that... It's not him being the same ass person for 10 movies straight literally. Like remove her out of any of these roles and stick that character into her other 10 movies... Interchangeable with no problems.. You can't stick Lil Nicky into the Waterboy... You can't stick Klump into Vampire in Brooklyn...


That role in Girls Trips could be teleported to any role posted in here and not one single word would get changed

you heard one jerky boyz skit.
you heard every ADAM Sandler performance ever.



art barr

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Bad examples
Two of those movies made a profit


Edit my bad only one made money

There are a lot of hidden costs in making and marketing a film. You are supposed to at least double your production budget.

 

[Max.]

Her netflix show just got canned

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

She’s fantastic in the Last OG. I can only tolerate her in small doses.

 

[OG Talk]

Whenever she comes out screaming “She Ready” I get the “Whoops there it is!” vibes. Like she is making a cliche gimmick out of her career.

I hope she’s saving her bread.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Her netflix show just got canned

Just looked it up. The cartoon show, Tuca & Bertie.

 

[feelosofer]

Nobody's Fool' was a decent movie for what it was .

I am not going to put blame on her for 'The Kitchen' and 'Like a Boss' those movies were poorly scripted, no one could carry those.

I think Tiffany Haddish is a good comedic actress but it's clear stand up is no strength of hers.

I actually liker her the most in 'The Last OG'

 

[NobodyReally]

I get what you saying but that's the difference. You want to be an A list, you got to show a range. Even in comedy where they want YOU, you still gotta throw somewhat of a different spin on each one.. Or you get the same label Kevin Hart gets.. "He's just playing Kevin Hart in every movie"

People have tried to throw that on Denzel of all people. But it's quickly proven wrong with about 10 different ways... Take it to comedy and you named the guys who are themselves, yet put a different spin on each character

All her characters got the same phrases, faces, voice and level of hood to them. Don't matter if she's with the all bougie girl group or the smart designer lady... She's playing the ghetto black lady... Book it. You can't just do that for 15 films.. Even Aquafina stupid dumbass racist schtick got tired after her 2nd film... She quickly put that shyt away for other roles or that's all she'd ever be

Tiffany has the pull and the power to get herself into other shyt and show her range.. She's taking the easy money. Money is money, I don't fault her. But if we having a discussion on ACTING, then her acting has to be critiqued.. When she does stand up, her comedy has to be critiqued. fukk that "we can be mediocre too". I'm not cosigning mediocre shyt as anything more than that..... Mediocre.. And that's NO compliment in any profession

I honestly hate this mindset that, black people have to be excellent to be worthy of praise and just to be regarded as competent. That's white oppression talking. It also holds us to an impossible standard to maintain. Excellence is just that. It's exceptional. It's unusual. And it should be regarded as such, not regarded as a standard for an entire race, especially when it's not applied to others. Like you have to be a 10/10 to make a living full of 5's, just because you're brown? I'm not subscribing to it. Even when we're excellent, they find a way to change goal posts to call us mediocre. I'm sorry Tiffany Haddish will never be Angela Bassett, and I don't expect her to be, and if Rebel Wilson can have a thriving career being a loud fat girl, then we should be able to do the same. I hope more people start embracing mediocrity for brown folks and the rejecting respectability politics.

 

[I AM WE ARE]

Come get on that couch baby girl
Jbo waiting

 

[Dad]

She’s ruined “kids say the darnedest things”

 

[ChuckTaylor84]

She plays the same character in every movie

No range

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I honestly hate this mindset that, black people have to be excellent to be worthy of praise and just to be regarded as competent. That's white oppression talking. It also holds us to an impossible standard to maintain. Excellence is just that. It's exceptional. It's unusual. And it should be regarded as such, not regarded as a standard for an entire race, especially when it's not applied to others. Like you have to be a 10/10 to make a living full of 5's, just because you're brown? I'm not subscribing to it. Even when we're excellent, they find a way to change goal posts to call us mediocre. I'm sorry Tiffany Haddish will never be Angela Bassett, and I don't expect her to be, and if Rebel Wilson can have a thriving career being a loud fat girl, then we should be able to do the same. I hope more people start embracing mediocrity for brown folks and the rejecting respectability politics.

There’s a mentality or way of thinking or whatever you call it, that I subscribe to


Don’t lower the bar trying to be like white people. Well they have Rebel and she’s fat and white and unfunny and gets A, B and C so why can’t black people praise Tiffany?


No I’m not gonna praise Rebel and I’m also not gonna praise Tiffany. I’m not gonna praise a damn thing average, less than average, etc. Not an actress, a black man, a movie, song, none of that. I’m not giving my son any damn participation trophies or none of it.

You are doing your job. Your passion. Your craft. It’s not like I get to enjoy it for free. I gotta use my money, from my passions and job, to go see yours. And when I do, I expect greatness. I’m not gonna storm out if I don’t get it. I’m not gonna bytch and demand money. But I am also never going to say “Oh well they black so it’s cool I wasted my time and money to not have a good time.”

I’m happy any black person is getting money and opportunities. But if you keep fumbling the ball, how many more times you think they gonna go with it? We JUST started getting black movies again after years of trash sitcoms and movies got us out on the back burner

 

[NobodyReally]

There’s a mentality or way of thinking or whatever you call it, that I subscribe to


Don’t lower the bar trying to be like white people. Well they have Rebel and she’s fat and white and unfunny and gets A, B and C so why can’t black people praise Tiffany?


No I’m not gonna praise Rebel and I’m also not gonna praise Tiffany. I’m not gonna praise a damn thing average, less than average, etc. Not an actress, a black man, a movie, song, none of that. I’m not giving my son any damn participation trophies or none of it.

You are doing your job. Your passion. Your craft. It’s not like I get to enjoy it for free. I gotta use my money, from my passions and job, to go see yours. And when I do, I expect greatness. I’m not gonna storm out if I don’t get it. I’m not gonna bytch and demand money. But I am also never going to say “Oh well they black so it’s cool I wasted my time and money to not have a good time.”

I’m happy any black person is getting money and opportunities. But if you keep fumbling the ball, how many more times you think they gonna go with it? We JUST started getting black movies again after years of trash sitcoms and movies got us out on the back burner

I guess I don't understand why you're assuming Tiffany's mediocrity is a lack of effort. She's tried a dramatic role this year. She tried. Maybe she got an acting coaching for that role, maybe she didn't. You're making a lot of assumptions here just because you don't like her and the movie itself was a flop. To put it all on her is disengenous and unfair.

Here are some reviews for her acting in "The Kitchen"

USA Today: "Haddish is crazy talented and will one day have a major dramatic breakthrough but this isn’t it, though her icy face-offs with Martindale are enjoyable."

AV Club: "As for Haddish, she keeps her head above water in her first major dramatic role, though she’s much more convincing as a cocky criminal kingpin than as the browbeaten wife and daughter-in-law she plays at the beginning of the story."

It doesn't say she's hamming it up or doing a schitck. It sounds like she gave it her best shot and it didn't work out. It also sounds like this is a writer/director issue. At any rate, this kind of scrutiny isn't distributed fairly and that's my problem with it. But if you really feel she's doing the black cinema and by extension black people a disservice, then I guess nothing I say will sway you. I just refuse to put that kind of burden on someone.