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UPPING THIS AFTER TONIGHT

Vargas/Salido was a great fight but I could not give one fukk about some telemundo mexicans spamming punches during a card like this


Bisping :banderas:, Hendo :banderas:, Holloway HE WANTED TO BANG :banderas:

Vargas/Salido >>>> Every other fight tonight.

If anything, tonight gave more precedence to the idea that MMA is still an early-stage crap-shoot sport.

Another champ loses easily. Boxing weeds out people until only the very best remain at the top. Occasionally a bum or two may slip through the cracks, but for the most part, the people we think are the best, are just that.

MMA? Man...obviously some are better. But you've got a heavyweight belt that gets around like a jersey tramp. Dudes becoming champions before their chins are even tested. I can't even tell how much is based on luck/chance, but I feel like it's more than boxing.

In light of Ali's death...man...come back to me when you're sport is more scientific and less tough-man competitive.

MMA is great for FUKKERY, but I won't take it as seriously until I can distinguish the talent more easily. And that's hard to do, because either the divisions are too thin, or people get knocked out after a title defense or two. RESPECT to Silva, JBJ, and anyone else who has figured out how to actually reign.

And it's easy to have "good match-ups" when you have a league with like 10 people in each division. I mean, how creative can you actually get with the booking?
 

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If anything, tonight gave more precedence to the idea that MMA is still an early-stage crap-shoot sport.

Another champ loses easily. Boxing weeds out people until only the very best remain at the top. Occasionally a bum or two may slip through the cracks, but for the most part, the people we think are the best, are just that.
Very very good post, but less and less boxing cards are worth watching these days. Even if UFC is a crap-shoot sport, is on every week and some cards aren't good, you get big events that energize you at least every one or two months.

Who the hell cares if you find out who is the best when you aren't even entertained along the way? Say what you will about UFC exploiting its fighters but if you're a 'fan', who cares? The top guys fight the top guys always. Canelo/Golovkin/Ward/Kovalev/Stevenson merry-go-round would never happen in UFC.
 

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i've never been a fan of boxing, being a martial artist for most of my life it just doesn't interest me. i think it's a preference more than anything
 

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I just love fights personally. I don't like one sport more than the other. I will say the typically UFC cards are better to me. A lot of times when boxing has a big event, the undercard is awful. I honestly think May/Pac would've gone over a lot better if the undercard wasn't 2 boring ass mismatches that nobody cared about. I guarantee if that was the UFC running a card like that, Loma and LSC would've been fighting each other in an instant classic instead of 2 guys nobody has ever seen in their life.
 

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Vargas/Salido >>>> Every other fight tonight.

If anything, tonight gave more precedence to the idea that MMA is still an early-stage crap-shoot sport.

Another champ loses easily. Boxing weeds out people until only the very best remain at the top. Occasionally a bum or two may slip through the cracks, but for the most part, the people we think are the best, are just that.

MMA? Man...obviously some are better. But you've got a heavyweight belt that gets around like a jersey tramp. Dudes becoming champions before their chins are even tested. I can't even tell how much is based on luck/chance, but I feel like it's more than boxing.

In light of Ali's death...man...come back to me when you're sport is more scientific and less tough-man competitive.

MMA is great for FUKKERY, but I won't take it as seriously until I can distinguish the talent more easily. And that's hard to do, because either the divisions are too thin, or people get knocked out after a title defense or two. RESPECT to Silva, JBJ, and anyone else who has figured out how to actually reign.

And it's easy to have "good match-ups" when you have a league with like 10 people in each division. I mean, how creative can you actually get with the booking?


I am a fan of both boxing and UFC, but I will say this. Cant use the bolded as an excuse. Boxing 'champions' routinely duck the best fights/ fighters (due to contractual companies/networks/ bytchassness, etc) and mandatories, and fights some bum that NOBODY knows in a so called title defense just to stay champ.

Example- absolutely NO reason why Stevenson/Kovalev havent fought by now. Have been the best 2 fighters at 175 for the past 3 years, but all these excuses over and over. (Im using this example cause they have both stayed in the same division this whole time). That would not happen in the UFC. In fact, we would have probably seen them fight twice by now.

All the top fighters are in the same promotion. They are gonna fight. Of course that will make it more of a crapshoot. Boxing doesnt weed out shyt. Not with 4 champs in the same weight class who DONT FIGHT EACH OTHER ever.
 

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Vargas/Salido >>>> Every other fight tonight.

If anything, tonight gave more precedence to the idea that MMA is still an early-stage crap-shoot sport.

Another champ loses easily. Boxing weeds out people until only the very best remain at the top. Occasionally a bum or two may slip through the cracks, but for the most part, the people we think are the best, are just that.

MMA? Man...obviously some are better. But you've got a heavyweight belt that gets around like a jersey tramp. Dudes becoming champions before their chins are even tested. I can't even tell how much is based on luck/chance, but I feel like it's more than boxing.

In light of Ali's death...man...come back to me when you're sport is more scientific and less tough-man competitive.

MMA is great for FUKKERY, but I won't take it as seriously until I can distinguish the talent more easily. And that's hard to do, because either the divisions are too thin, or people get knocked out after a title defense or two. RESPECT to Silva, JBJ, and anyone else who has figured out how to actually reign.

And it's easy to have "good match-ups" when you have a league with like 10 people in each division. I mean, how creative can you actually get with the booking?


In boxing, it's just punching. In MMA, there's punches, kicks, knees, elbows, submissions, takedowns, etc. There are more facets and variables to MMA. Thus, more ways to lose. In MMA, (more so than any other sport) anything can happen.

In the UFC if you're a champion, you're going to be constantly fighting the best your division has to offer. As a champion, there isn't hand-picking opponents, ducking fights and tune-up fights.

As of right now, boxing easily has the bigger talent pool. But, it's a tough comparison because MMA is still a young sport. It's talent pool is constantly growing though.

The politics in boxing just drains some of the life out of the sport. You'll have fighters in the same division not fighting each other for years. X fighter will not Y fighter because of weight, purse, management, etc. In boxing, you'll occasionally have champions in the same division not fighting each other.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to personal preference. One sport is not better than the other.
 
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I am a fan of both boxing and UFC, but I will say this. Cant use the bolded as an excuse. Boxing 'champions' routinely duck the best fights/ fighters (due to contractual companies/networks/ bytchassness, etc) and mandatories, and fights some bum that NOBODY knows in a so called title defense just to stay champ.

Example- absolutely NO reason why Stevenson/Kovalev havent fought by now. Have been the best 2 fighters at 175 for the past 3 years, but all these excuses over and over. (Im using this example cause they have both stayed in the same division this whole time). That would not happen in the UFC. In fact, we would have probably seen them fight twice by now.

All the top fighters are in the same promotion. They are gonna fight. Of course that will make it more of a crapshoot. Boxing doesnt weed out shyt. Not with 4 champs in the same weight class who DONT FIGHT EACH OTHER ever.


Nice Post agree 100%
 

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I like both sports but c'mon.. Boxing has the money, history and respect but MMA is next up. We don't have to choose between MMA and Boxing like we don't have be choose between basketball and football.. It's all good, baby.

MMA is way more active.
 
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I am a fan of both boxing and UFC, but I will say this. Cant use the bolded as an excuse. Boxing 'champions' routinely duck the best fights/ fighters (due to contractual companies/networks/ bytchassness, etc) and mandatories, and fights some bum that NOBODY knows in a so called title defense just to stay champ.

Example- absolutely NO reason why Stevenson/Kovalev havent fought by now. Have been the best 2 fighters at 175 for the past 3 years, but all these excuses over and over. (Im using this example cause they have both stayed in the same division this whole time). That would not happen in the UFC. In fact, we would have probably seen them fight twice by now.

All the top fighters are in the same promotion. They are gonna fight. Of course that will make it more of a crapshoot. Boxing doesnt weed out shyt. Not with 4 champs in the same weight class who DONT FIGHT EACH OTHER ever.

Show proof of this. Stop listen to stans argue dumb ass comments.

The best fight each other in boxing all the time, give me an example right now. Can't say Canelo and GGG, because Canelo didn't start at 160, he already fought the best 155 and GGG has cleared out 160 basically.

Give me an example of a champion ducking

How can you say that when boxing has mandatory fights in order for a fighter to get his title.

Besides negotiations on mega fights what your saying is not true.

Danny Garcia beat the best at 140 and is now fighting the best at 147.

Porter hasn't had an easy fight since he fought paulie who people didn't expect him to KO paulie.

thurman and porter are fighting in their primes for the belt lmao

Ward cleared out his division, and is moving up to fight Kovalev.

Stop with this dumb talk.

The fact is boxing just as deeper talent pool than MMA.

Bisping is 37 years old and never got a shot at the title in his prime, but he was the only guy suitable for Rockhold to fight, that shows you the UFC doens't have a deep talent pool.

OSP was the best replacement they had for cormier to fight Jones.

Everything you said is not based in reality.

Floyd didn't fight Manny when people wanted, instead he fought Shane Mosley who was WBA champion, Miguel Cotto who was WBA 154 champion, Canelo who was WBC at 154, and Maidana who won the WBA belt Floyd wouldn't pay fees for from Broner.

So everybody Floyd fought while the Pac fight was in talk was at the top of the division. This ducking shyt was just dumb ass stans talking out of their eyes.

The Cash cow in the sport can pick and chose his fights after earning that right by beating the best. And that is really only one person like that at a time.

Broner was hyped as the next big thing and he already has two losses on his record, because he had to fight better competition at some point.

What are you basing your opinion on?

Hendo is 45 years old and just beat Lombard who is 38 and considered one of the top guys.

When you look at most divisions the average age of the top guys are like 35

the fact Anderson Silva is washed up and is one win away from a title shot, shows you the lack of depth.

The fact Aldo is fighting Edgar again who is from a completely different era than now, shows you the lack depth.
 
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