It’s crazy how Roman killed the WWE

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I just wanna preface this by saying I was a huge Reigns fan around two years ago. I still think he’s talented and actually could have been the guy WWE wanted him to be if circumstances were different. I’m sympathetic towards the guy because WWE has completely mismanaged his career.. But damn, Reigns’ relentless push has really taken a toll on the product.

Viewer interest is at an all-time low. Creative has been trash for years at this point, imo since WM31. Everything just feels like a conduit to get Reigns over. I haven’t watched RAW since 2016 but I’ll tune into all the big PPVS and end up feeling like I wasted my time. It’s just funny to me that a few years ago dudes would say “you won’t stop watching” and there was an element of truth to that but now people really stopped watching. I mean I just saw that the RAW thread has 30 pages :picard:
 
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Why are you blaming him like he makes the decisions on what happens with him then proceed to list a buncha reasons why the product sucks with none being Roman?
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portcityplaya said:
Why are you blaming him like he makes the decisions on what happens with him then proceed to list a buncha reasons why the product sucks with none being Roman?
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Like you said, I’m not blaming Roman. I’m blaming the WWE for incessantly pushing him for four years with fan interest and overall buzz for the product dwindling after every year. I always thought there was an inkling of truth when people would say that smarks won’t stop watching no matter what but it really has come to the point where WWE has alienated those fans. And the Roman Reigns experience is a major catalyst for that.
 
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Reigns the character is a symbol of what's wrong with WWE right now. But I don't think many people really blame the GUY. He's not bad at all, but a seasoned fan can see how WWE tries to trojan horse him in on whatever they can find, and I think we resent that WWE thinks we're this gullible. That's really it. Position him differently and I think he's fine.

How long have people been stating the obvious: If they would have flipped him heel, they could have gotten ppl behind him and then flipped him back by now. Instead they've stayed the course and it feels like contempt is fueling it.
 
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If anything ruined wrestling it’s honestlythe fans who feel entitled. People think they are insiders because they use words like “book, heat, kayfabe” and forget they are watching a TV show. Could you imagine fans chanting “You deserve it” to Jake the Snake while he’s trying to cut a dark promo :mjlol:

These fans watch with their own agenda and figure that “well I pay and I watch...the boss should listen to me and people who think like me” when literally no form of entertainment is like that except for singing competitions like The Voice. Sports aren’t like that... if your team loses they lose :manny: music isn’t like that... if you don’t like an artist you don’t support them and they don’t go hunt you down for your opinion. TV isn’t like that... you don’t watch the show and it either stays on or gets cancelled.

The entitlement of the wrestling fan is far worse than RR. :yeshrug:
 
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Like you said, I’m not blaming Roman. I’m blaming the WWE for incessantly pushing him for four years with fan interest and overall buzz for the product dwindling after every year. I always thought there was an inkling of truth when people would say that smarks won’t stop watching no matter what but it really has come to the point where WWE has alienated those fans. And the Roman Reigns experience is a major catalyst for that.
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So why does Smackdown suck as well? Why is the midcard trash? Making Roman champ or not doesn't change the fact that wrestlers have 0 character, doesn't change horrible booking, doesn't change the botched call ups and death of the tag division, doesn't change the same ole non wrestling blonde bytch being women's champ.
The WWE is killing itself cause it all points back to Vince and his horrible decisions and ideas. Whether Roman is the face they want or not it'd still have the same issues.
 
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TL15 said:
If anything ruined wrestling it’s honestlythe fans who feel entitled. People think they are insiders because they use words like “book, heat, kayfabe” and forget they are watching a TV show. Could you imagine fans chanting “You deserve it” to Jake the Snake while he’s trying to cut a dark promo :mjlol:

These fans watch with their own agenda and figure that “well I pay and I watch...the boss should listen to me and people who think like me” when literally no form of entertainment is like that except for singing competitions like The Voice. Sports aren’t like that... if your team loses they lose :manny: music isn’t like that... if you don’t like an artist you don’t support them and they don’t go hunt you down for your opinion. TV isn’t like that... you don’t watch the show and it either stays on or gets cancelled.

The entitlement of the wrestling fan is far worse than RR. :yeshrug:
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So you say that fans should just be sheep and accept mediocrity?
 
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