‘It keeps the French safe’: US lawmakers defend spying :troll:

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I almost wonder if they're doing it on purpose at this point to tell NATO and Europe to start carrying their own weight.

The whole Snowden thing doesn't ring true to me either.

It was also reported today they recorded 60m phone calls in a month in Spain.

If this information was in the public domain for all these months why the dust up now?

Also it's not a secret that they all spy on each other. It could just be for internal consumption I suppose.

Maybe a mix of all of the above.

What the hell did people think ECHELON was doing back in the 80s?

That was even an agreement between the US/UK/UK-Commonwealth

This shyt ain't new.




There should be a rule, you can't be a member of the Five-Countries agreement if the US or UK has a base in your country. Germany, we're looking at you.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

What are you talking? First of all the developed world crashed, not just the EU and USA. The EU crashed for different reasons than the US. They crashed because their economies are garbage and Americans shouldn't have to prop up their fraudulent lifestyles. That's not why anyone pays tax dollars.

Second, the US has an obligation to protect the well being, general welfare and interest of its citizens. It has the right to do damn near anything to achieve this aim. Let France, England, Poland, the Czech Republic, all these nations do them.

Third, if spying benefits us, then we should definitely do it. I don't see why there's any moral difference between spying on England and spying on Egypt. We could be allies with Egypt tommorow and enemies with England in 20 years. Just do whatever it takes.

Oh here comes the troll....

Did I ever deny that the developed world crashed? The EU didn't crash because their economies are garbage, actually the majority of the large countries in Europe has a more fit and stable economy than the U.S. They crashed because they failed to have a united fiscal policy to go with their monetary system (Euro). Who's fraudulent lifestyle? You lost me there.

Ok Captain America, whatever you say.

 

[Spidey Man]

Germany and France just want in on the Five Eyes agreement.

 

[razassin]

The US has been tradionally a "realist" State as far as international relations go. Under the discipline of international relations the realist theory, founded in IR by Hans Morguenthau (a german), states that the international System is anarchic and each State must prioritize their national interest over everythingin order to survive. In the realist theory, security is given the highest importance of all spheres of politicS and hence its the key factor in determining the national interest of a country.

Now with that out the way... Nikkaz gotta understand we may not compete military wise with germany and france but we do compete with them economically... They have very strong industries like we do and we all compete for foreign markets....

Besides, in politics u cant trust anyone.... Any country in the world would be happy to have our huge spyin infrastructure...

I still believe when thangs like this become public knowledge is cuz another move is bout to be pulled behind the scenes... Remember fbi's motto... Whats black is white and whats white is actually black