It Has Begun

[daze23]

I don't think this has much to do with NDAA or FISA

H. Beatty Chadwick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

H. Beatty Chadwick (b. ~1938) is the American record holder for the longest time being held in civil contempt of court. In 1995, a judge ruled that Chadwick hid millions of U.S. dollars in overseas bank accounts so that he would not have to pay the sums to his ex-wife during their divorce. He was incarcerated until such time as he could present $2.5 million to the Delaware County Court. Chadwick maintains that the money was lost in a business transaction and therefore he cannot surrender money he does not possess.

On July 10, 2009 Chadwick was ordered released from prison by Delaware County Judge Joseph Cronin, who determined his continued incarceration had lost its coercive effect and would not result in him surrendering the money.

Although never charged with a crime, H. Beatty Chadwick spent fourteen years of his life in prison.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I don't think this has much to do with NDAA or FISA

H. Beatty Chadwick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Freedom at work @budbundy.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I don't think this has much to do with NDAA or FISA

H. Beatty Chadwick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

14 years for 2.5 million? if i didn't have kids it'd do it.

 

[MBwithadream]

I heard about that shady law coming into effect, I didn't expect that cacs would be a target

You think nikkas is safe?


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[Pool_Shark]

someone should protest.............oh wait

 

[daze23]

someone should protest.............oh wait

it's interesting that the ACLU hasn't got involved. it makes me think I'm jnot getting the whole story...

 

[Pool_Shark]

it's interesting that the ACLU hasn't got involved. it makes me think I'm jnot getting the whole story...

It's kinda disgusting and frustrating that they can do this but I can't and won't do shyt about it so I try not to really complain. It's how I feel about a lot of things.

That's probably how it is for a lot of people though. Every ones ready for these things to stop but we're too caught trying to live, to make it happen.

 

[OneManGang]

14 years for 2.5 million? if i didn't have kids it'd do it.

14 years of my life is worth way more than 2.5 million dollars.

 

[88m3]

I don't know the ins and outs of the law, but you don't always have the 'right to remain silent'. you have to at least appeal to the 5th amendment and avoiding self-incrimination, but you can't just refuse to talk "just because"

again, I'm not an expert, and this situation does sound fuct up

You don't even have to present yourself to grand jurys and you can pick and choose what you answer. The "I don't recall, I don't know" is also acceptable. It can prejudice a jury although it's not supposed to.

Where are all the hl legal eagles

 

[MidniteJay]

You think nikkas is safe?


Vincent Price Laugh - YouTube

I said "a target" no "the target". First thing I thought when that law was introduced I thought this is for minorities and foreigners lol but looks like cacs are getting a taste too.

 

[daze23]

You don't even have to present yourself to grand jurys and you can pick and choose what you answer. The "I don't recall, I don't know" is also acceptable. It can prejudice a jury although it's not supposed to.

Where are all the hl legal eagles

Testifying Before a Grand Jury | Nolo.com

Testifying Before a Grand Jury

Your rights in a grand jury room -- whether called as a witness or as the target of the investigation -- are very limited.

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Prosecutors often give immunity to compel small fish to testify against big fish. For example, a prosecutor may give a small-time drug dealer immunity in exchange for the dealer’s testimony against the drug lord from whom the dealer purchased the drugs. A witness who refuses to testify after being given immunity can be held in contempt of court by a judge and jailed.

Anarchist probe: Jailed activists say they will not testify before grand jury - Los Angeles Times

Duran, Olejnik and Leah-Lynn Plante all have been offered immunity from prosecution — meaning they could not assert their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in refusing to testify. Federal authorities have made it clear that no one has the right to hide evidence of a crime

 

[88m3]

Testifying Before a Grand Jury | Nolo.com



Anarchist probe: Jailed activists say they will not testify before grand jury - Los Angeles Times

the nolo article isn't accurate

Duran, Olejnik and Leah-Lynn Plante all have been offered immunity from prosecution — meaning they could not assert their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in refusing to testify.

I've never heard of that and I'm sure there were ways around it originally but his lawyers messed up.

 

[daze23]

the nolo article isn't accurate

I've never heard of that and I'm sure there were ways around it originally but his lawyers messed up.

you're centimeters from my ignore list right about now

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...

Grand juries in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Individuals subject to grand jury proceedings do not have a Sixth Amendment constitutional right to counsel in the grand jury room,[30][31] nor do they have a Sixth Amendment right to confront and cross-examine witnesses. Additionally, individuals in grand jury proceedings can be charged with holding the court in contempt (punishable with incarceration for the remaining term of the grand jury) if they refuse to appear before the jury

 

[88m3]

you're centimeters from my ignore list right about now

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Grand juries in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New York
In New York State, while a person can initially be charged with a felony via a sworn written accusation alone (a "felony complaint"),[19] the state constitution provides a defendant with a right to have all felonies prosecuted by way of a grand jury indictment.[20] This right can be waived by a defendant, who can then be prosecuted using an indictment substitute called a "superior court information."[21] Grand juries are composed of between 16 and 23 jurors (16 being a quorum for all proceedings) and indictments require a minimum vote of 12 such jurors.[22] Grand juries may produce not only indictments but may direct the filing of misdemeanor charges in local courts, the removal of cases to Family Court, and may also issue “grand jury reports” concerning malfeasance of public officials and recommending their discipline.[23]
Both the prosecutor and the grand jury itself have the right to call witnesses to testify before the grand jury.[24] With few exceptions, every witness who testifies before a grand jury receives transactional immunity automatically, whether they invoke their right to silence or not.[25] If a grand jury is considering criminal charges against a person, that person has a right to testify before that grand jury, provided they make a timely written demand and then agree to waive their right to immunity.[26] Despite this fact, an unwitting target of a grand jury proceeding has no right to be informed that their case is even being considered by a grand jury in the first place, unless they have already been arraigned on a felony complaint charging a related crime and are awaiting a preliminary hearing on that complaint.[27]

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[TrueEpic08]

Raekwon - Casablanca - YouTube

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Do you understand what the words "Transactional Immunity" mean? There's no difference between the principle outlined in what you quoted and what everyone else has been saying about how those given immunity from prosecution are exempt from the protection of the 5th Amendment.