Israel's Most Liberal City Introduces Racially Segregated Kindergartens For Black Kids

[Capo Dei Capi]

I can name (and so can you) an equal amount of facst that support the idea that Israel is much worse with human rights and manipulation of world conflicts and situations.

You named 7 random things about women and laws, but failed to make the case that Israel isn't equally if not more evil than the state of Iran.

Then you ignore the fact that all 7 of your 'facts' aren't 100% true... From arab Muslim and African treatment.... to the fact that "Israel is an actual democracy". Not only is it not a true democrazy, Zionist lobbing groups also ensure that some 'western nations' aren't true democracies either. Also, your color, nationality, location, etc are all relevant in regards to your prospective...... Especially considering the BS that happens in Israel affect us much more than the BS that happens in Iran.

Don't waste your time on this clown.

 

[TLOL is back]

Don't waste your time on this clown.

Excellent contribution as usual. Are you a scholar?

Higher Learning

 

[Blackking]

No you can't. You can at best name plenty of allegations, such as this thread which is a complete lie.



They are not 7 "random things." They are a set of principles shared by liberal democracies. The fact that Iran doesn't share those values (equal rights for women/gays) is more than enough.



Each and every single one of those is 100% true, and verifiable.



This is barely coherent. You also did not point out which fact I stated is not true. This is just rambling, honestly.



But not to the facts at hand. I'm not interested in "perspectives." I'm more of a facts and critical thinking kind of guy.

I really can't take this serious... you actually believe what you're saying is true.
Facts? The fact is that we can create 20 threads on the human rights abuses and manipulation of Israel.

And your basing your opinions on BS ideas... then using those ideas about a romanticized version of 'liberal democracies' to question why Iran is falling short.... well of course it will not behave like that be cause it's NOT a liberal democracy.

Honestly, the fact that you stated that I can only name allegations destroys any credibility you have on the subject.

You literally said you're a facts and critical thinking guy in the same paragraph about how I "can at best name plenty of allegations"

 

[TLOL is back]

I really can't take this serious... you actually believe what you're saying is true.
Facts? The fact is that we can create 20 threads on the human rights abuses and manipulation of Israel.

And they will be full of allegations, and events taken out of context. Not facts.

And your basing your opinions on BS ideas... then using those ideas about a romanticized version of 'liberal democracies' to question why Iran is falling short....

I don't know what this means. It is not English. I want to understand though.

well of course it will not behave like that be cause it's NOT a liberal democracy.

And hence, why Israel and Iran are dramatically different from one another.

Honestly, the fact that you stated that I can only name allegations destroys any credibility you have on the subject.

Except that you have no real argument against this. Saying "ha! You just lost all credibility!" is not a valid counter-argument.

You literally said you're a facts and critical thinking guy in the same paragraph about how I "can at best name plenty of allegations"

I don't know if you are aware of this, but restating my argument is not a valid counter-argument.

For the record, of course Israel has violated human rights. Every country on the face of the earth that has been to war, has violated human rights. My argument is not that Israel has never violated human rights, it is that to argue Israel is as bad as Iran.... At best, those arguments would be allegations, and not facts.

 

[Blackking]

And they will be full of allegations, and events taken out of context. Not facts.



I don't know what this means. It is not English. I want to understand though.



And hence, why Israel and Iran are dramatically different from one another.



Except that you have no real argument against this. Saying "ha! You just lost all credibility!" is not a valid counter-argument.



I don't know if you are aware of this, but restating my argument is not a valid counter-argument.

For the record, of course Israel has violated human rights. Every country on the face of the earth that has been to war, has violated human rights. My argument is not that Israel has never violated human rights, it is that to argue Israel is as bad as Iran.... At best, those arguments would be allegations, and not facts.

Your argument is so flawed that I seriously can't bring myself to reply with further details and info.this is the last post...

I'm guessing youre an alias who wants to troll this issue. I'm not defending Iran... but your p o view on Israel is so extreme that a conversation isn't worth it.

Women: much of government and life in Israel is allowed to be controlled by religious laws - so a large % of women rights abuses are allowed. Right here in American some Jewish women are forced into marriage at young ages..... so imagine how that is in Israel.

No same sex marriages allowed.

Middle East apartheid... against neighbors.

I'm sure you will say forced sterilization of Africans was either justified or 'a made up story'

War crimes and random killings all over the world with no fukks given. This nation is basically known for that.

Social discrimination against Arab citizens.... (sure this is imaginary or justified)

government destruction of buildings and towns to "increase jewish populations and decrease arab populations in some areas

A nation that is one of the most racist against blacks on our planet - independent studies and random people w cameras can show this to be true (probably imaginary)

There really isn't a 'human rights' watch group out there that says that Israel is fair against arabs - 3 to 1 investment in jewish over arab students. Business and government discrimination, etc.

Women and young girls who are trapped and forced into sex trafficking.... find a great home in Isareal due to its loose laws of protection and needy population for young p*ssy.


This isn't even close to the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Dre Space Age]

If you are reading history books that describe the current characteristics of a population..... you are probably not reading a history book.

Stop trollin breh. I know it's your peoples b. Let em go.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

But that's how it starts...A little segregation, and the next thing you know, people are being herded into the gas chambers...Even scarier, people start getting infected with diseases, or contaminated with poisons...

This is history...

If Israelis/Jews can do this, then Hitler was not such a bad guy after all...

 

[TLOL is back]

Stop trollin breh. I know it's your peoples b. Let em go.

Maybe you should present a counter-argument. Or are all your opinions on the issue completely unfounded, just like everyone else?

 

[TLOL is back]

Your argument is so flawed that I seriously can't bring myself to reply with further details and info.this is the last post...

I'm guessing youre an alias who wants to troll this issue. I'm not defending Iran... but your p o view on Israel is so extreme that a conversation isn't worth it.

It would be very convenient for you to make it your last post, considering I'm about to demonstrate how you have zero knowledge on these issues (not to mention your post does not make any logical sense)

Women: much of government and life in Israel is allowed to be controlled by religious laws so a large % of women rights abuses are allowed. Right here in American some Jewish women are forced into marriage at young ages..... so imagine how that is in Israel.

This is incorrect. There are no "religious laws." Israel simply leaves marriages up to religious authorities. If the United States allows religious authorities to conduct weddings, and so do other European countries, how is Israel any different?

No same sex marriages allowed.

Incorrect. Israel does not ban gay marriages. Marriages are up to religious authorities. If religious institution began marrying gays, it would be recognized as a marriage. In fact, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that recognizes gay marriages in general.

Middle East apartheid... against neighbors.

This does not make sense. Every country in the world separates itself from its neighbors and gives its citizens priveleges that foreign nationals do not have.Literally, every country in the world.

I'm sure you will say forced sterilization of Africans was either justified or 'a made up story'

Forced sterilization never happened. That is your sick/twisted version of what happened. What did happen is Africans did not given consent the way medicine defines consent. "lack of consent" in medical terms simply means that they weren't explained what the side effects were. If your doctor asks you if you want medicine, and you say yes, you did not give "consent" according to medical ethics if he hasn't thoroughly explained the side effects to you.

War crimes

Every country on the face of the earth who fought a terrorist organization has done this.

and random killings all over the world

Of known terrorists.

Social discrimination against Arab citizens.... (sure this is imaginary or justified)

Every country in the world has social discrimination against minorities.

government destruction of buildings and towns to "increase jewish populations and decrease arab populations in some areas

Your assertion of why it happens is another allegation, not a fact.

A nation that is one of the most racist against blacks on our planet - independent studies and random people w cameras can show this to be true (probably imaginary)

Once again, complete fabrication. LMAO @ "people with cameras" proving something about the GENERAL population.

There really isn't a 'human rights' watch group out there

... Exactly.

that says that Israel is fair against arabs - 3 to 1 investment in jewish over arab students.

Not bad considering the Jewish:Arab ratio is 4:1. This indicates Israel discriminates against Jews

Women and young girls who are trapped and forced into sex trafficking.... find a great home in Isareal due to its loose laws of protection and needy population for young p*ssy

Israel's human trafficking laws are no different from other Western countries. .

This isn't even close to the tip of the iceberg.

... Of your lies.

Let's sum up:

- Allegations of discrimination and forced marriages based on Israel allowing religious authorities to perform marriages = Same as every other Western democracy.

- Allegations of "apartheid against neighbors" (which makes no sense) ---> Same as every other country.

- Allegations of social discrimination against minorities ---> Same as every other country.

- Allegations of war crimes ---> Same as every other country in history that has fought a terrorist organization.

Like I said, you can state allegations that Israel is worse than other Western democracies, but you sure as hell can't state any facts that demonstrate that.

 

[Blackking]

It would be very convenient for you to make it your last post, considering I'm about to demonstrate how you have zero knowledge on these issues (not to mention your post does not make any logical sense)



This is incorrect. There are no "religious laws." Israel simply leaves marriages up to religious authorities. If the United States allows religious authorities to conduct weddings, and so do other European countries, how is Israel any different?



Incorrect. Israel does not ban gay marriages. Marriages are up to religious authorities. If religious institution began marrying gays, it would be recognized as a marriage. In fact, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that recognizes gay marriages in general.



This does not make sense. Every country in the world separates itself from its neighbors and gives its citizens priveleges that foreign nationals do not have.Literally, every country in the world.



Forced sterilization never happened. That is your sick/twisted version of what happened. What did happen is Africans did not given consent the way medicine defines consent. "lack of consent" in medical terms simply means that they weren't explained what the side effects were. If your doctor asks you if you want medicine, and you say yes, you did not give "consent" according to medical ethics if he hasn't thoroughly explained the side effects to you.



Every country on the face of the earth who fought a terrorist organization has done this.



Of known terrorists.



Every country in the world has social discrimination against minorities.



Your assertion of why it happens is another allegation, not a fact.



Once again, complete fabrication. LMAO @ "people with cameras" proving something about the GENERAL population.



... Exactly.



Not bad considering the Jewish:Arab ratio is 4:1. This indicates Israel discriminates against Jews



Israel's human trafficking laws are no different from other Western countries. .




... Of your lies.

Let's sum up:

- Allegations of discrimination and forced marriages based on Israel allowing religious authorities to perform marriages = Same as every other Western democracy.

- Allegations of "apartheid against neighbors" (which makes no sense) ---> Same as every other country.

- Allegations of social discrimination against minorities ---> Same as every other country.
- Allegations of war crimes ---> Same as every other country in history that has fought a terrorist organization.

Like I said, you can state allegations that Israel is worse than other Western democracies, but you sure as hell can't state any facts that demonstrate that.

smh... this is a prime example of y u can't be taken seriously.

 

[TLOL is back]

smh... this is a prime example of y u can't be taken seriously.

Said the person scared to have a real discussion.

This:

Let's sum up:

- Allegations of discrimination and forced marriages based on Israel allowing religious authorities to perform marriages = Same as every other Western democracy.

- Allegations of "apartheid against neighbors" (which makes no sense) ---> Same as every other country.

- Allegations of social discrimination against minorities ---> Same as every other country.
- Allegations of war crimes ---> Same as every other country in history that has fought a terrorist organization.

Is something you can hide from, but it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong in every single conceivable way.

Instead of owning up to it, you run away from it like a little coward. Not surprising, considering your entire movement is based on the support of cowards and demonization of those who stand up to them.

 

[Blackking]

Said the person scared to have a real discussion.

This:




Is something you can hide from, but it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong in every single conceivable way.

Instead of owning up to it, you run away from it like a little coward. Not surprising, considering your entire movement is based on the support of cowards and demonization of those who stand up to them.

What I mean by you can't be taken seriously is... you're pushing the Zionist message too hard. There is no point in even having the conversation because you firmly believe everyone is wrong and Israel is justified in any and every action.

 

[TLOL is back]

What I mean by you can't be taken seriously is... you're pushing the Zionist message too hard. There is no point in even having the conversation because you firmly believe everyone is wrong and Israel is justified in any and every action.

Using this logic, nobody here can be taken seriously since you're pushing the Palestinian message too hard. "There is no point in even having conversation because you firmly believe the media is right and Israel is wrong in every action"

.... The stupidity of thinking that rational debate involves caring about what someone's beliefs are as opposed to the actual facts at hand

 

[Dre Space Age]

What I mean by you can't be taken seriously is... you're pushing the Zionist message too hard. There is no point in even having the conversation because you firmly believe everyone is wrong and Israel is justified in any and every action.

Word dat dude's acting like a herb.

 

[TLOL is back]

Word dat dude's acting like a herb.

Another excellent contribution. Are you a scholar?