Islam in Africa

[wize fool]

As far as I know there is no political literature that states that those who oppose democrats should be murdered bro.

Islam at its core is a very violent religion be, just keep it 100 and admit that.

Do I really need to type that there is no Islamic literature that states those who oppose Islam should be murdered? Do I?

Why not take the time to educate yourself on a topic before speaking on it? That's what truly baffles me about this site. To speak ignorantly as hearsay is one thing. But some of you sound so sure of yourselves despite knowing that you don't know.

 

[theworldismine13]

If it's that easy to learn, why are you so... never mind.

Ah yes, I remember this video from SOHH. Running low on false ammo, friend?

Let me ask you a question. If a Democrat kills a Republican over politics, does that mean the Democratic party is a violent political party? Common sense is your friend, friend. Yet you display disdain for it in every post.

if im posting anything that is inaccurate feel free to correct it, im not interested in your philosophical mumbo jumbo

 

[Tom]

there is no Islamic literature that states those who oppose Islam should be murdered?

I guess these are all taken out of context tho

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers].

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


thats just the tip of the iceberg, but 3 is enough


We know more about your religion than u do bro. Yet you know very little about science (or actual world history outside of the bible/quran), its tragic.


It hurts doesn't it?

 

[Bud Bundy]

are people really defending this.

yall are sick.

 

[FAH1223]

I guess these are all taken out of context tho

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers].

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


thats just the tip of the iceberg, but 3 is enough

surah baqara, the verse before it says do not transgress, God does not love the transgressors. We are to fight if someone fights us. Don't tell me you gonna lay down like a bytch if someone uproots you from your crib

surah anfal,To begin, this verse is referring to a SPECIFIC BATTLE, this verse is not an order on Muslims, and this verse is talking about a battle that took place. The battle it is referring to is the battle of Badr. Read about that. If you read in context it is telling muslims that the victory of an army (313 soliders, 8 horsemaen and i think some 20 odd swords) over the Meccans who were set out to kill all the Muslims with their If you read in context it is telling muslims that the victory of an army (313 soliders, 8 horsemaen and i think some 20 odd swords) over the Meccans of 1000 soldiers with much more powerful equipment is a feat which could only be performed by Allah's help.

Surah Tawbah, which is Surah 9, is also a chapter that came from Medina (like the previous 2). This was when the Muslims made the immigration to Medina and the Meccans were trying to wipe Islam off the face of the earth. They prevented any pilgrimmages, they tried to kill the Prophet on several ocassions, they infiltrated the Muslim ranks, and plotted and schemed. I think Muslims and non Muslims don't learn from the pages of history and nikkas like you don't read

 

[wize fool]

I guess these are all taken out of context tho

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers].

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


thats just the tip of the iceberg, but 3 is enough


We know more about your religion than u do bro. Yet you know very little about science (or actual world history outside of the bible/quran), its tragic.


It hurts doesn't it?

You guessed right. These verses are quoted out of context. They are pertaining to wars being fought at the time.

So what you call "knowing about Islam" is in actuality not knowing. You don't know more about Islam than I do, that's a fact. That I know little about science is a false assumption with nothing to back it up.

You clearly believe in the cliche that science and religion don't mix. Let me introduce you to Islam, the religion that brought you algebra, the scientific method, the Renaissance, quarantines, countless advances in medicine, astronomy, and many other sciences.

You don't know what you're debating, friend. Islam is no blind faith. It is based on observation, logic and reason. It is these Islamic principles that brought Europe out of the dark ages, spawned the age of exploration and changed this world forever.

I am no amateur, friend, I promise you that. You're going to really have to study up to battle me. The irony is if you truly studied up you'd probably join me instead.

 

[50CentStan]

surah baqara, the verse before it says do not transgress, God does not love the transgressors. We are to fight if someone fights us. Don't tell me you gonna lay down like a bytch if someone uproots you from your crib

surah anfal,To begin, this verse is referring to a SPECIFIC BATTLE, this verse is not an order on Muslims, and this verse is talking about a battle that took place. The battle it is referring to is the battle of Badr. Read about that. If you read in context it is telling muslims that the victory of an army (313 soliders, 8 horsemaen and i think some 20 odd swords) over the Meccans who were set out to kill all the Muslims with their If you read in context it is telling muslims that the victory of an army (313 soliders, 8 horsemaen and i think some 20 odd swords) over the Meccans of 1000 soldiers with much more powerful equipment is a feat which could only be performed by Allah's help.

Surah Tawbah, which is Surah 9, is also a chapter that came from Medina (like the previous 2). This was when the Muslims made the immigration to Medina and the Meccans were trying to wipe Islam off the face of the earth. They prevented any pilgrimmages, they tried to kill the Prophet on several ocassions, they infiltrated the Muslim ranks, and plotted and schemed. I think Muslims and non Muslims don't learn from the pages of history and nikkas like you don't read

exactly bro, but hey, the Koran also tells us people who are ignorant want to remain that way, they know what the deal is. we they lose.

 

[Tom]

You guessed right. These verses are quoted out of context. They are pertaining to wars being fought at the time.

So what you call "knowing about Islam" is in actuality not knowing. You don't know more about Islam than I do, that's a fact. That I know little about science is a false assumption with nothing to back it up.

You clearly believe in the cliche that science and religion don't mix. Let me introduce you to Islam, the religion that brought you algebra, the scientific method, the Renaissance, quarantines, countless advances in medicine, astronomy, and many other sciences.

You don't know what you're debating, friend. Islam is no blind faith. It is based on observation, logic and reason. It is these Islamic principles that brought Europe out of the dark ages, spawned the age of exploration and changed this world forever.

I am no amateur, friend, I promise you that. You're going to really have to study up to battle me. The irony is if you truly studied up you'd probably join me instead.

Bro, you aren't saying anything that isn't already known. Islam's influence on science hit the ceiling when science started leading in a direction where God was no longer necessary. When Islam hit that fork in the road they chose to stick with the Quran and that's why they are no longer torchbearers for science anymore. They are stuck in the past and behind the rest of the modern world today because of the Quran (The very source that originally inspired their quest for knowledge ironically)

Concerning it's context, why are we picking and choosing what is still relevant today? Why base ur life off something that is outdated (as you acknowledged yourself) Why not discard the entire thing.

surah baqara, the verse before it says do not transgress, God does not love the transgressors. We are to fight if someone fights us. Don't tell me you gonna lay down like a bytch if someone uproots you from your crib

how do you know what God "wants" bro?


Because a book that he allegedly authored said so?




When I hear people make bold statements like that I'm always amazed and frightened at the same time. It's truly dangerous



This is why I don't respect muslims, at the end of the day no matter how much sophisticated lingo is spewed about by "Islamic Scholars" The entire belief systems relies on the fact that an Angel talked to a man in a cave. You have to suspend all logic and reason to believe in such an idea in the first place. It's ridiculous.


When Joseph Smith (Mormon prophet) experiences the same thing 1 hundred years ago he's laughed at and viewed as a crazy fraud.


But if it happened thousands of years ago then it's perfectly believable


Islams entire foundation is based on magic and fairy tales bro

 

[wize fool]

Muslims have an answer, Tom. You don't. So we should abandon our answer and join the side of self proclaimed ignorance for what?

You have already embarrassed yourself by saying Abraham was the first man according to the Abrahamic faiths. Nothing you post should come without a question mark after it. You don't know what you're talking about yet you continue to pretend you do. The only thing you should be doing in threads pertaining to Islam is asking questions. I'm sorry but your testimony holds no weight due to your obvious lack of knowledge.

 

[Tom]

Muslims have an answer, Tom. You don't. So we should abandon our answer and join the side of self proclaimed ignorance for what?

You have already embarrassed yourself by saying Abraham was the first man according to the Abrahamic faiths. Nothing you post should come without a question mark after it. You don't know what you're talking about yet you continue to pretend you do. The only thing you should be doing in threads pertaining to Islam is asking questions. I'm sorry but your testimony holds no weight due to your obvious lack of knowledge.

Sure.



What answer do you guys have exactly?


And I never said Abraham (if he even existed...its most likely an evolved myth) was the first man according to the Abrahamic faiths. I said that to my knowledge he was the first man that God allegedly spoke to.

How did u even reach that conclusion that I said that bro?

 

[wize fool]

Sure.



What answer do you guys have exactly?


And I never said Abraham (if he even existed) was the first man according to the Abrahamic faiths. I said that to my knowledge he was the first man that God allegedly spoke to.

How did u even reach that conclusion that I said that bro?

Whatever you said was embarrassingly incorrect for a man who claims to know Islam.

 

[Tom]

I know that the entire thing is based on a myth and spread by ancient men who were ignorant bro


I know that you live a life completely void of God, outside of some text that people claim he wrote


I rather focus my attention on actual history (shyt that actually happened) and not man made myths bro


Forgive me if I am not as well versed with religious fiction as you may be

 

[Tom]

Seriously tho, what evidence is there that the Quran or any religious literature for the matter was actually "God's" word?


And why pick sand dwellers to reveal this information to?


Why not reveal yourself to sophisticated scientist who could probably actually verify his/her/its existence.


Why did all the miracles stop once the majority of humans became educated and dropped their superstitious beliefs?


I feel like before any discussion about whether Islam or any religion should be taken seriously then these questions need to be addressed.



And that still wouldn't address all the contradictions religion has with all we know to be truth today in the field of science

 

[wize fool]

I know that the entire thing is based on a myth and spread by ancient men who were ignorant bro


I know that you live a life completely void of God, outside of some text that people claim he wrote


I rather focus my attention on actual history (shyt that actually happened) and not man made myths bro


Forgive me if I am not as well versed with religious fiction as you may be

It is obvious where you stand, and it's not on the side of knowledge. You are actually bragging about your ignorance. Please don't participate in any more threads about Islam because it's obvious you don't know about it and you just said you'd rather focus on other things. So why are you here? Not to spread knowledge because you have none. Not to gain knowledge because you choose not to.

Let's recap: You claimed you knew more about Islam than I do because you "own a Qur'an and some Islamic literature" which you clearly haven't read and/or comprehended. Then you "demonstrated" this knowledge (or lack thereof) by claiming Abraham was the first prophet in Islam. Now you don't care about any of it.

So again, why are you here?

 

[the cac mamba]

they dont hear you though friend



question for the super-patriots

what is the difference between some people claiming islamic ties punishing people for their crimes and some cops in america over reacting during routine calls to arrest someone and killing them in some cases?

they justify it with a magical, nonsensical holy book?