You're an idiot. Are you actually suggesting that ISIS knows Islam better than the prophet, the four righteous caliphs and the Abbasids? Smh.
nikka you and i know it's not a sin to kill apostates and infidels in Islam.
Qur'an advocates for these.
Moderate Islam only exist on the west and Muslim minority nations.
Isis is following the Qur'an as it was written in the stoneage
you forgot the part where it says it's forbidden to kill the innocent and it's forbidden to force someone to convert
88m3
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you forgot the part where it says it's forbidden to kill the innocent and it's forbidden to force someone to convert
not sure who you're quoting but how else would you expect a religion to properly spread?
Trajan
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The most populous Muslim country in the world is Indonesia....a Muslim army never set a foot there nor was it conquered by any Muslim.
Abdi
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KingTut
Green diamonds like a dill pickle
ISIS reportedly shoots down Jordanian plane over Syria, pilot captured
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/1...wn-jordanian-plane-over-syria-pilot-captured/
Man if they kill that guy Jordan is gonna knock their block off
Quote that exact part of the Qur' an real quick
You are disgracing yourself as a Muslim for not even knowing what's in the haddith
88m3
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Why would you feel the need to lie to me?
Abdi
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1) what you have quoted is not a Qu'ran verse.
2) the punishment of apostasy is a political issue rather than an Islamic one
the punishment of apostasy in Islam. "None, No punishment in this world, but by God after the person's death..yes" Quran Surat An-Nahl [16:106-109] - The Noble Qur'an
3) The idea of apostasy in Islam derives from the time in which Islam was a political community & it was analogous to treason
Definition of treason - the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.
- punishment of treason in Islam...Death.
4) Quran prohibits compulsion in religion "There is no compulsion in religion. The truth is distinct from misguidance." Surah Al-Baqarah [2:256 ]
verses in the Qur'an also guarantee freedom of belief ,like "whoever so wills may believe and whoever so wills may deny" Surah Al-Kahf [18:29]
map of muslim countries that has death penalties as punishment for apostates.
-Blue, countries are those who are against the death penalty.
- Yellow, have not established any rule about it
-Red, apostasy is punishable by death.
..clearly its more political rather than Islamic.
1) what you have quoted is not a Qu'ran verse.
2) the punishment of apostasy is a political issue rather than an Islamic one
the punishment of apostasy in Islam. "None, No punishment in this world, but by God after the person's death..yes" Quran Surat An-Nahl [16:106-109] - The Noble Qur'an
3) The idea of apostasy in Islam derives from the time in which Islam was a political community & it was analogous to treason
Definition of treason - the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.
- punishment of treason in Islam...Death.
4) Quran prohibits compulsion in religion "There is no compulsion in religion. The truth is distinct from misguidance." Surah Al-Baqarah [2:256 ]
verses in the Qur'an also guarantee freedom of belief ,like "whoever so wills may believe and whoever so wills may deny" Surah Al-Kahf [18:29]
map of muslim countries that has death penalties as punishment for apostates.
-Blue, countries are those who are against the death penalty.
- Yellow, have not established any rule about it
-Red, apostasy is punishable by death.
..clearly its more political rather than Islamic.
Only places where Muslims are not killed for leaving the religion is where they are a minority or in the west.
The haddiths endorse killing apostates and infidels. It's standard practice in Sharia Law.
You are being dishonest and not a true Muslim for even arguing this point.
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'
Abdi
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Only places where Muslims are not killed for leaving the religion is where they are a minority or in the west.
The haddiths endorse killing apostates and infidels. It's standard practice in Sharia Law.
You are being dishonest and not a true Muslim for even arguing this point.
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'
nvm.Which is why the prophet, the four Righteous Caliphs and Abbasids killed all heathens under their rule? No? So do you know better than them?
Btw. the Stone Age ended thousands of years before Islam.
Only places where Muslims are not killed for leaving the religion is where they are a minority or in the west.
The haddiths endorse killing apostates and infidels. It's standard practice in Sharia Law.
You are being dishonest and not a true Muslim for even arguing this point.
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'
What about this?
"If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." - Deuteronomy 13:6-9
"3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die." - Deuteronomy 17:3-5
"All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman." - 2 Chronicles 15:13
And in before you give me that rubbish you christians like to talk about the old testament and so, here's this:
"Don’t ever think that I came to set aside Moses’ Teachings or the Prophets. I didn’t come to set them aside but to make them come true. 18 I can guarantee this truth: Until the earth and the heavens disappear, neither a period nor a comma will disappear from the Scriptures before everything has come true." - Matthew 5:17-18
"20. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23. and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
26. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
29. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30. slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31. they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:20-32
So, are you a true christian?
