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Selig Harrison,the South Asia expert at Woodrow Wilson International Centre, had this to say about Taliban back in 2001:
“The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) worked in tandem with Pakistan to create the “monster” that is today Afghanistan’s ruling Taliban”

“The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then [ i.e., since the violent destruction of the Afghan secular government in the early 1990s] as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books…” — Washington Post, 23 March 2002

In 1996, the U.S. oil company Unocal (Union Oil of California) reached an agreement with the Taliban to build a pipeline, but the continuing
Afghan civil war prevented that project from getting started. According to Ahmed Rashid, a Central Asia specialist and author of Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil, and Fundamentalism in Central Asia, “Between 1994-96 the U.S. supported the Taliban politically through its allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, essentially because Washington viewed the Taliban as anti-Iranian, anti-Shia, and pro-Western.” From 1995 to 1997, Rashid says, “U.S. support was driven by the UNOCAL oil/gas pipeline project.” Private companies conducted the actual negotiating, but their actions were “encouraged by the U.S. government.”

In May 1997 the New York Times wrote: “The Clinton Administration has taken the view that a Taliban victory … would act as a counterweight to Iran … and would offer the possibility of new trade routes that could weaken Russian and Iranian influence in the region.
 
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The additional brutal murder of an American journalist on Tuesday by ISIS is inflaming the general panic this terror organization has spread in Israel, among other places – but this panic must end.

Despite the trail of horrors it is leaving behind, ISIS is operating hundreds of kilometers away from our border, and even if it were closer, it would unlikely be able to harm Israel and its residents.

Jihadist Organization
At the end of the day, we are talking about several thousand unrestrained terrorists riding pickup trucks and firing with Kalashnikovs and machine guns. Together with several other militias that have joined it (and may desert it once the military momentum grinds to a halt), ISIS is now said to include about 10,000 fighters – half of the size of Hamas' military force. And unlike Hamas, which is indeed on our fences, ISIS has no tunnels, no artillery abilities, no ability to strategically target the State of Israel, and no allies to supply it with advanced weapons.

The threat ISIS poses to Israel as a global jihad organization is not essentially different from the threat of al-Qaeda, with which Israel has been living for more than a decade now.

Had ISIS diverted its efforts from Iraq and turned to Israel, it would have become an easy prey for the Israeli intelligence, for the Air Force planes and for the precision weapons possessed by the IDF ground forces. The moment it encounters a modern army, ISIS will get off its pickup trucks, which will reduce its ability to move towards Israel even more.

In the meantime, ISIS is preoccupied with countless other enemies, some of which are separating between them and us: The armies of Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon, and even its sworn Shiite enemy, Hezbollah.

The success that bought ISIS global newspaper headlines has already been mostly curtailed. It was the fruit of long preparations, which took place within a governmental void in Iraq and relied on the support of a local Sunni population that had a vested interest in acting against the Shiite government in Baghdad.

The frightening possibility that ISIS ideology would take root among the Palestinian population, including its most radical factions, is highly unlikely. This terror organization's jihadist ideology is so radical that it has even been rejected by al-Qaeda, and we should not expect it to be seen favorably in Gaza or the West Bank.

In fact, ISIS has led to an almost unbelievable broad coalition against it, all of whom seek to destroy it. Here is a short, clockwise list: Russia, Turkey, Iran, the Kurdish militias (Pêşmerge), the Gulf states, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Syrian army, the Lebanese army, Hezbollah and Israel.

It can take credit for another almost unbelievable achievement: It managed to return the US Army to Iraq under the Obama administration. Apart from the aerial strikes that are already taking place, US Secretary of State John Kerry is also working on building a wide international coalition to eradicate the organization.

For all these reasons, we can take our hand off the siren button. ISIS is not a significant threat to Israel in the near future, and in an odd sense, it even provides some strategic opportunities for Israel to cooperate with other states: With the US – intelligence, logistic and diplomatic partnership that would help the American effort could restore the trust between the leaderships; with Europe, such assistance could remind the Europeans that, at the end of the day, we are fighting together against the Islamic extremism; and with the region's countries, led by the moderate Sunni states, working and trust relations could be created between the respective security communities.

The immediate danger to Israel from ISIS is that the attention in Israel and in the world would be diverted from the Iranian nuclear program, which is the real strategic danger, both to the security of the world and to the security of Israel.

Despite the horrific images emerging from Iraq and Syria, we should maintain a realistic agenda and focus on the main issue.

The most important strategic target for Israel's national security remains unchanged: Preventing a nuclear Iran and stopping an agreement between Iran and the world powers that would fail to supervise its nuclear activity sufficiently, leaving it the ability to make a breakthrough towards a nuclear weapon within a short period of time.

Major-General (res.) Amos Yadlin is the director of Tel Aviv University’s Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) and served as head of the IDF's Military Intelligence Directorate
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4567128,00.html

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http://www.hangthebankers.com/snowden-documents-to-be-released-in-july-to-prevent-a-major-war/

Snowden documents to be released in July to prevent a major war
Ill said:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4567128,00.html

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isis seems to be another failed attempt by the zionists to invade syria. at this point i can't say failed because it's managed to get the zionists inside syria which is what they wanted anyway.
they were watching it and making sure it wasn't a threat to israel.. watching and directing it towards israel.
take a few polls to see how effective there campaign has been and quite a few ppl have eaten up the bs.. hence barack saying there's no real strategy at this point.should they go in on assad or fight isis?

The immediate danger to Israel from ISIS is that the attention in Israel and in the world would be diverted from the Iranian nuclear program, which is the real strategic danger, both to the security of the world and to the security of Israel.
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what a bunch of bs. iran was never a threat to israel. infact it's israel who have destroyed the arab world and been a threat to the world (via the wall street zionists. check the sig).
 
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clip we uploaded where retired Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney admits “We Helped Build ISIS” was taken down... so let's teach them how the Streisand Effect works. Below is a link to the original file. Make it spread.

Download link: https://s3.amazonaws.com/scg_site_files/Gen-Mcinenery-We-Built-ISIS-Short-Version.mp4

If you don't feel like this quote is significant, make sure you have watched "The Covert Origins of ISIS" first. http://scgnews.com/the-covert-origins-of-isis




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'Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback

U.S lawmakers encouraged officials in Riyadh to arm Syrian rebels. Now that strategy may have created a monster in the Middle East.


“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,” the senator said once again a month later, at the Munich Security Conference.


McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.


But shortly after McCain’s Munich comments, Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah relieved Bandar of his Syrian covert-action portfolio, which was then transferred to Saudi Interior Minister Prince Mohammed bin Nayef. By mid-April, just two weeks after President Obama met with King Abdullah on March 28, Bandar had also been removed from his position as head of Saudi intelligence—according to official government statements, at “his own request.” Sources close to the royal court told me that, in fact, the king fired Bandar over his handling of the kingdom’s Syria policy and other simmering tensions, after initially refusing to accept Bandar’s offers to resign. (Bandar retains his title as secretary-general of the king’s National Security Council.)


The Free Syrian Army (FSA), the “moderate” armed opposition in the country, receives a lot of attention. But two of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.


Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, “ISIS has been a Saudi project.”


ISIS, in fact, may have been a major part of Bandar’s covert-ops strategy in Syria. The Saudi government, for its part, has denied allegations, including claims made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, that it has directly supported ISIS. But there are also signs that the kingdom recently shifted its assistance—whether direct or indirect—away from extremist factions in Syria and toward more moderate opposition groups.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/
 
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