ISIS (and related) "Official" Thread

[Kritic]

They going HAM to get rid of Assad, if you got the time breh check out the confessions of an economic hit man. You're exactly right, they tried doing what they did to Gaddafi to Assad. There's a larger conspiracy at hand.

i heard confessions of economic hitman dude when he went on npr.

he's out thee just running his mouth snitching details on plenty of wars. i wonder to they're just letting him walk.


truth seekers are conspiracy theorists now..

 

[Poppa_Dock]

Breh, his name was Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarrai & he changed it to Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi Al-Husseini Al-Qurashi in order to seem more legitimate as Caliph of this bullshyt "Islamic State".

& this isn't the first time I've seen the government lie & create false enemies in order to further their own agenda. If they've done it before I have no doubt they'll do it again.

Have you heard of the confessions of an economic hit man? this breh goes in to detail about how the government sends "jackals" to destablise a country & then make it a puppet state.

This is different though. I believe in some conspiracy but this just doesn't add up. This is clearly a group who wants to create a sharia caliphate in the area. This is why they "split" with "al queada" for "ideological reasons" or because they were "too crazy". They clearly split because al queada's plan is to just attack non muslims, these dudes actually are going to create a caliphate. Al queada wants to bring sharia law to an area just for as long as they can terrorize it before getting turned to ashes, ISIS actually wants to create an islamic state and keep it.

Obama's new interview is interesting. He basically says he allowed the minorities to be slaughtered so pressure could be put on maliki to make changes himself. He says if he would have started airstrikes earlier maliki would have been able to duck making changes because Obama would have solved the problem. He says he didn't want to make it a situation where they were being "the iraqi airforce" or "the kurdish airforce", not that the kurds even have an airforce, but he probably isn't thinking that far ahead. What a disaster.

just hope this thinking doesn't spread around. Because literally he is willing to allow people to be massacred if they don't "do it themselves" even though they might not have ever been capable of doing that. Bizarre thinking.

 

[BocaRear]

i heard confessions of economic hitman dude when he went on npr.

he's out thee just running his mouth snitching details on plenty of wars. i wonder to they're just letting him walk.


truth seekers are conspiracy theorists now..

Breh basically outlined how they go about manipulating a resources in order to suit large corporations. Breh is right, we live in corporatocracy & we ain't even know it.

They keep using these fake coups & uprisings in order to destabilize & get rid off leaders that cannot be bribed & undermine their goals.

 

[BocaRear]

This is different though. I believe in some conspiracy but this just doesn't add up. This is clearly a group who wants to create a sharia caliphate in the area. This is why they "split" with "al queada" for "ideological reasons" or because they were "too crazy". They clearly split because al queada's plan is to just attack non muslims, these dudes actually are going to create a caliphate. Al queada wants to bring sharia law to an area just for as long as they can terrorize it before getting turned to ashes, ISIS actually wants to create an islamic state and keep it.

Obama's new interview is interesting. He basically says he allowed the minorities to be slaughtered so pressure could be put on maliki to make changes himself. He says if he would have started airstrikes earlier maliki would have been able to duck making changes because Obama would have solved the problem. He says he didn't want to make it a situation where they were being "the iraqi airforce" or "the kurdish airforce", not that the kurds even have an airforce, but he probably isn't thinking that far ahead. What a disaster.

just hope this thinking doesn't spread around. Because literally he is willing to allow people to be massacred if they don't "do it themselves" even though they might not have ever been capable of doing that. Bizarre thinking.

No doubt that a lot of the lower level foot soldiers & ISIS followers believe that this is a caliphate. They've been manipulated & duped. ISIS follows a takfiri principle which allows them to kill Muslims & non Muslims with norepercussions. In their eyes everyone who opposes their interpretation of the Quran can be killed. ISIS is an illegitimate caliphate in the eyes of the Quran as it violates the killing of Innocent life.

Regarding ISIS being funded by the USA & being a creation of it. I honestly find it hard to believe that the CIA which HEAVILY monitors the Middle East because of the oil would be as naive as to give weapons to them without fully understanding what they are capable of & what their agenda is. If this was a serious threat they'd be over there so fast they'd have been their months ago.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

the US didnt have a lot of options in dealing with maliki, he was even letting Iran resupply Syria and Hizbullah throughi Iraqi airspace. Maliki also forcedi the Sunni Vp to flee to Kurdistan. Maliki wants to be a dictator he's gotta go. Even if they form a new government in baghdad that isnt abusing Sunni and Kurd this thing with ISIS isnt going to stop.

 

[ill]

On the June 22 edition of NBC’s Meet the Press, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu let slip his government’s intention to divide and conquer the Middle East.

Remarking on the latest ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) incursions into Iraq, Netanyahu expressed the desire of his regime to promote internal strife in Israel’s neighboring states. “We must weaken both [Sunni and Shia Muslims],” Netanyahu said

“When your enemies are fighting each other, don’t strengthen either one of them, weaken both". He also said to play both sides.

Someone read The Art of War

 

[ill]

Notice the news can show you violent images and video of beheadings, shootings and other executions of men, women and children from Iraq, Libya and Syria and yet couldn't show you not one pic of sandy hook children.

Foreign war zones with potential enemy combatants versus elementary school children from our own nation. Hmm I wonder.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Someone read The Art of War

ISIS/Isreal

coincidence?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Attacking me with name calling doesn't help your so called position. I made a claim earlier....did you avoid it? posted the link and such.

My apologies. Ill contribute a rebuttal when I am sober tomorrow. At the very least, I respect your consistency.

 

[FAH1223]

Reports claim that ISIS has at most 20k fighters, most say they have 10k fighters so what man power are we talking about here breh?

ISIS is clearing out Eastern Syria from Assad troops. There's literally 1 military base left in Eastern Syria, and small pockets of Assad troops surrounded in two regions. Once they're taken ISIS will most likely move for the Kwerais airbase in Aleppo before going for the city itself.

You then have other groups like The Nusra Front which controls large parts of Idlib and recently gave major Ls to Assad in Hama province.

Those 2 groups alone are handing out Ls to Assad, I'm not even gonna mention the IF, Hazm, SRF, Deraa rebels.

Assad had a lil run at the beginning of the year taking advantage of the rebel infighting but since that died down he's getting that work handed to him.

Whoever your sources are been selling you ducktales breh :mjkkk:

And the rebels will fight amongst themselves again

Assad will win, he has a man power issue but he has superior commanders on the field.

 

[Grand Conde]

Have you noticed the pattern? U.S. hasn't went after any ISIS or Bokam Haram members since their reign or terror. The denounce the killings but do nothing to help those people.

...because the US is going to re-invade Iraq or go anywhere near Africa?

America is largely powerless in these messes, bar some airstrikes here and there. This is what happens when you invade countries half way two at a time, your people get war weary, your reputation plummets and your military loses a lot of its operational ability.

 

[Kritic]

And the rebels will fight amongst themselves again

Assad will win, he has a man power issue but he has superior commanders on the field.

i don't think he got this one. well... he should automatically think that.
Obama authorizes targeted air strikes and air drops against IS in Iraq = something for assad to worry about.

isis is greenlight for barack and the zionists to add even more forces against assad. barack doesn't really give a shyt about iraq. they already fuqqed it up. women and children die every day and they don't flinch. the big agenda here is to bring assad down and that's why isis was created.

barack will go in on him. he better run to the phone and ask putin for help. barack now has found a real reason to ask for military support that way that they couldn't earlier..

 

[Kritic]

No doubt that a lot of the lower level foot soldiers & ISIS followers believe that this is a caliphate. They've been manipulated & duped. ISIS follows a takfiri principle which allows them to kill Muslims & non Muslims with norepercussions. In their eyes everyone who opposes their interpretation of the Quran can be killed. ISIS is an illegitimate caliphate in the eyes of the Quran as it violates the killing of Innocent life.

Regarding ISIS being funded by the USA & being a creation of it. I honestly find it hard to believe that the CIA which HEAVILY monitors the Middle East because of the oil would be as naive as to give weapons to them without fully understanding what they are capable of & what their agenda is. If this was a serious threat they'd be over there so fast they'd have been their months ago.

arabs just haven't got the memo that things will not get better like in iraq and libya. they have been played against each other like negros were in the civil rights era.

them toyotas the cia bought you to fight your fellow arabs don't mean shyt. smarten up nas.

 

[Kritic]

Breh basically outlined how they go about manipulating a resources in order to suit large corporations. Breh is right, we live in corporatocracy & we ain't even know it.

They keep using these fake coups & uprisings in order to destabilize & get rid off leaders that cannot be bribed & undermine their goals.

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[Ikwa]

And the rebels will fight amongst themselves again

Assad will win, he has a man power issue but he has superior commanders on the field.

Breh you're basing your statements on emotions not facts.

There's about to be a big fight for the Tabqa airbase in Raqqa province, once ISIS takes it they'll be able to spread into Aleppo, Hama and even southern provinces.

This isn't your typical guerilla groups, they have commanders from Sadam's Army and battle-hardened Chechens who gave that work to Russia in the 90s.

Meanwhile other rebels are moving towards Damascus airport.

You think Qassem Suleymani can come in and save the day but nikka is busy right now trynna stop Baghdad from falling. ISIS literally forced thousands of Shia militias lo leave Syria and return to Iraq, now Assad is bearing the brunt of it.

Hezbolla also been taking heavy losses near the Lebanese border. Conflict will spread into Lebanon itself eventually, once that happens shyt will be taken to new levels all together.