waltthizzney
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Since I've read a lot on the whole ISIS situation, I thought I'd list a few of the things that have been helpful to me understanding the many aspects of this issue. These run the gamat from really serious to partially comedic, but they all provide helpful perspective.
The Onion's original 2003 pre-war prophecy of all of this This war will destabilize the entire Mideast region and set off a global shockwave of terrorism
A pretty good summary of some of the most important ISIS shyt 9 questions about ISIS you were too embarrassed to ask
Wikipedia's ISIS page: Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
A history of ISIS's spread How ISIS spread in the Middle East
The connection between the invasion of Iraq and the growth of ISIS Did the Bush invasion of Iraq "create" ISIS?
How the current ISIS leadership was predominantly formed in American-run prisons ISIS the inside story
More on that prison where ISIS leaders came together Camp Bucca the US prison that became the birthplace of ISIS
What Saddam did to sort of set all this shyt up The hidden hand behind the Islamic State militants? Saddam Hussein's
How the US-propped Iraqi president did his fair share to cause this shyt too Sunnis on their treatment in Malaki's Iraq
Why Assad is heavily responsible for ISIS's growth and strength The problem at the heart of ISIS
More about Assad having done some evil, evil shyt to make ISIS run Suspects into collaborators: Assad and the Jihadists
Some observations about ISIS's propaganda magazine 7 things I learned reading every issue of ISIS's magazine
Why ISIS wants us to go to war with them, with information on how they recruit: The War ISIS Wants
More on the connection between ground war and prophecy US seeks to avoid ground war welcomed by Islamic State
Why ISIS wants us to hate Muslims and refugees ISIS wants us to destroy the grey zone, here's how we defend it
The King of Jordan on ISIS and refugees King Abdullah: ISIL "a war within Islam"
What happened when some Syrian Sunnis tried to revolt against ISIS Syria tribal revolt against ISIS ignored, fueling resentment
Why some Iraqis fight for ISIS What I discovered from interviewing ISIS prisoners
ISIS's attempts to win hearts and minds The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has a consumer protection office
Hostage of ISIS says that bombing is the worst idea possible Former ISIS hostage says that airstrikes are a trap
Former kidnapping victim of ISIS says that stability in the region is necessary to defeat them What I learned about ISIS from being kidnapped by its predessor
Extensive piece on the practicals of how ISIS grew, and wants to grow The Islamic State's strategy: lasting and expanding
The horrifically evil stuff ISIS does to minority women ISIS enshrines a theology of rape
How ISIS exploits teenagers for its aims ISIS recruits teenagers as suicide bombers
ISIS theology from the perspective of some "true believers" What ISIS really wants
Actual Muslim scholars telling the ISIS guys they're full of shyt Muslim scholars make the theological case against the Islamic State
Some of the theological pull of ISIS Lure of the Caliphate
Pull to ISIS is based on desires of youth and power, not theology ISIS: a contrived ideology justifying barbarism and sexual control
More abou the people who go to fight for jihad Foreign Fighters in Syria
How Iraqi intelligence officers are using their craft to make ISIS effective Over 100 former Saddam Hussein-era officers make up ISIS leadership
More on that Islamic State is led by over 100 former Iraqi officers
Internal documents show that the Baathists, not the religious nuts, may be running the whole show Islamic State files show structure of Islamist terror group
More on the Sunni/Shi'i divide and what the Baathists want to do ISIS forces that now control Ramadi are ex-Baathist Saddam loyalists
ISIS has very little popular support among Muslims ISIS has almost no popular support in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Lebanon
Or in other Muslim countries In nations with significant Muslim populations much distain for ISIS
How ISIS actually manages to sell its shlock to foriegn women ISIS and women
Where the Islamic State's money comes from How ISIS makes its money
The coalition against ISIS - including the Taliban and Hezbollah The astonishing 54 countries and groups battling ISIS
Some failures of our military "victories" against ISIS Lessons from the liberation of Sinjar
R's/D's following the same playbook No Republican wants to admit it, but their strategy on ISIS is basically the same as Obama's
Some nonviolent ways to address the ISIS problem 65 religious leaders send open letter to President Obama
Some costs and benefits of various military strategies against ISIS Weighing the military arguments
An argument that the best thing to do is to simply contain them The best strategy against ISIS in Syria and Iraq: Containment
The Onion's original 2003 pre-war prophecy of all of this This war will destabilize the entire Mideast region and set off a global shockwave of terrorism
A pretty good summary of some of the most important ISIS shyt 9 questions about ISIS you were too embarrassed to ask
Wikipedia's ISIS page: Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
A history of ISIS's spread How ISIS spread in the Middle East
The connection between the invasion of Iraq and the growth of ISIS Did the Bush invasion of Iraq "create" ISIS?
How the current ISIS leadership was predominantly formed in American-run prisons ISIS the inside story
More on that prison where ISIS leaders came together Camp Bucca the US prison that became the birthplace of ISIS
What Saddam did to sort of set all this shyt up The hidden hand behind the Islamic State militants? Saddam Hussein's
How the US-propped Iraqi president did his fair share to cause this shyt too Sunnis on their treatment in Malaki's Iraq
Why Assad is heavily responsible for ISIS's growth and strength The problem at the heart of ISIS
More about Assad having done some evil, evil shyt to make ISIS run Suspects into collaborators: Assad and the Jihadists
Some observations about ISIS's propaganda magazine 7 things I learned reading every issue of ISIS's magazine
Why ISIS wants us to go to war with them, with information on how they recruit: The War ISIS Wants
More on the connection between ground war and prophecy US seeks to avoid ground war welcomed by Islamic State
Why ISIS wants us to hate Muslims and refugees ISIS wants us to destroy the grey zone, here's how we defend it
The King of Jordan on ISIS and refugees King Abdullah: ISIL "a war within Islam"
What happened when some Syrian Sunnis tried to revolt against ISIS Syria tribal revolt against ISIS ignored, fueling resentment
Why some Iraqis fight for ISIS What I discovered from interviewing ISIS prisoners
ISIS's attempts to win hearts and minds The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has a consumer protection office
Hostage of ISIS says that bombing is the worst idea possible Former ISIS hostage says that airstrikes are a trap
Former kidnapping victim of ISIS says that stability in the region is necessary to defeat them What I learned about ISIS from being kidnapped by its predessor
Extensive piece on the practicals of how ISIS grew, and wants to grow The Islamic State's strategy: lasting and expanding
The horrifically evil stuff ISIS does to minority women ISIS enshrines a theology of rape
How ISIS exploits teenagers for its aims ISIS recruits teenagers as suicide bombers
ISIS theology from the perspective of some "true believers" What ISIS really wants
Actual Muslim scholars telling the ISIS guys they're full of shyt Muslim scholars make the theological case against the Islamic State
Some of the theological pull of ISIS Lure of the Caliphate
Pull to ISIS is based on desires of youth and power, not theology ISIS: a contrived ideology justifying barbarism and sexual control
More abou the people who go to fight for jihad Foreign Fighters in Syria
How Iraqi intelligence officers are using their craft to make ISIS effective Over 100 former Saddam Hussein-era officers make up ISIS leadership
More on that Islamic State is led by over 100 former Iraqi officers
Internal documents show that the Baathists, not the religious nuts, may be running the whole show Islamic State files show structure of Islamist terror group
More on the Sunni/Shi'i divide and what the Baathists want to do ISIS forces that now control Ramadi are ex-Baathist Saddam loyalists
ISIS has very little popular support among Muslims ISIS has almost no popular support in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Lebanon
Or in other Muslim countries In nations with significant Muslim populations much distain for ISIS
How ISIS actually manages to sell its shlock to foriegn women ISIS and women
Where the Islamic State's money comes from How ISIS makes its money
The coalition against ISIS - including the Taliban and Hezbollah The astonishing 54 countries and groups battling ISIS
Some failures of our military "victories" against ISIS Lessons from the liberation of Sinjar
R's/D's following the same playbook No Republican wants to admit it, but their strategy on ISIS is basically the same as Obama's
Some nonviolent ways to address the ISIS problem 65 religious leaders send open letter to President Obama
Some costs and benefits of various military strategies against ISIS Weighing the military arguments
An argument that the best thing to do is to simply contain them The best strategy against ISIS in Syria and Iraq: Containment
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Do we do any propaganda in Syria and Iraq against ISIS?
I thought their recently killed second in command was the finance minister?
therewillbeboogienights
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Yall I am reviving this b/c I just watched this video from 2014 i think/? Of this 17 year old girl being stoned to death in Syria by ISIS militants anc Her own FATHER. She kept begging to be forgiven over anc over. The bearded man kept telling the father to forgive her but he won't. He even cut her off as she was speaking her last words. Holy fukkkkk that ws the most disturbing thing ive ever seen. These people are truly disgusting 
. These people are truly disgusting 
Box Factory
hater
This is a white Canadian @hex
1) Who gives a damn about ISIS?
2) Why search for posts nearly 10 years old?
3) I think he's a black man.
Box Factory
hater
He is 100% a white guy from Canada.
Why let a racist troll continue to be a racist fakkit for ten+ years?
Even if he is white, he wasn't referring to black people in this post. It was about ISIS.
Just put him in ignore and be done with it.
Box Factory
hater
Nah, search his name and "monkey", there's alot of posts
I get what you're saying, but fukk him. He's never added anything but shytty trolling
Shamima Begum loses appeal against removal of British citizenship
Lawyers sought to overturn ruling last year that revocation of her citizenship was lawful
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Shamima Begum’s citizenship was revoked on national security grounds in 2019. Photograph: BBC
Shamima Begum
Shamima Begum loses appeal against removal of British citizenship
Lawyers sought to overturn ruling last year that revocation of her citizenship was lawfulDan Sabbagh
Fri 23 Feb 2024 11.00 EST
Shamima Begum, who left Britain as a schoolgirl to live under Islamic State (IS), has failed in a fresh attempt to overturn a decision to remove her British citizenship after the court of appeal ruled against her.
Three judges unanimously concludedthat the then home secretary, Sajid Javid, had the power to set aside concerns she may have been a victim of child trafficking when she travelled in secret with two friends from east London to Syria in 2015.
The court also held that Javid had acted lawfully even if it meant Begum, now 24, was effectively stateless – because she theoretically held Bangladeshi citizenship, which applied up to her 21st birthday, at the time of his decision in 2019.
An argument raised by her lawyers, that citizenship deprivation disproportionately affected British Muslims, and so was a breach of equalities law, was also dismissed because there is an exemption for cases involving national security.
Dame Sue Carr, the head of the court of appeal, said the judges unanimously dismissed Begum’s appeal: “It could be argued that the decision in Miss Begum’s case was harsh.
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“It could also be argued that Miss Begum is the author of her own misfortune. But it is not for this court to agree or disagree with either point of view.
“Our only task is to assess whether the deprivation decision was unlawful. We have concluded it was not and the appeal is dismissed.”
Begum’s solicitor, Daniel Furner, said they would seek to fight on, hinting at a possible appeal to the supreme court. Furner said he had promised Begum and the government that they were “not going to stop fighting until she does get justice and until she is safely back home”.
A Home Office spokesperson said: “We are pleased that the court of appeal has found in favour of our position in this case. Our priority remains maintaining the safety and security of the UK and we will robustly defend any decision made in doing so.”
Maya Foa, the director of Reprieve, an NGO that represents the two dozen British women detained in north-east Syria, said: “This whole episode shames ministers who would rather bully a child victim of trafficking than acknowledge the UK’s responsibilities.”
Begum is being held in indefinite detention in the Roj refugee camp in north-east Syria, which is controlled by Kurdish forces who captured her early in 2019 at the end of the ground war against IS in Syria and Iraq.
Shortly after, Javid revoked her British citizenship on the grounds it was “conducive to the public good”, after she had given an interview to the Times in which she said she did not regret living four years in the so-called caliphate and had told the BBC the Manchester Arena terror attack was “a kind of retaliation”.
But, two years later, in September 2021, Begum said she had made a mistake and would “rather die than go back to IS” in a TV interview. Insisting she was not a terrorist, she said she was prepared to come back to the UK and be put on trial to prove her innocence. “The government do not have anything on me,” she said.
A protracted legal battle has ensued, in which Begum’s case has already been blocked once by the supreme court. It was established in earlier proceedings that although she had never been to Bangladesh, she was eligible for its citizenship up until the age of 21, because it was the origin country of her parents.
Last year, Begum lost a challenge against the decision at the special immigration appeals commission(Siac). Begum’s lawyers brought a bid to overturn this decision at the court of appeal, with the Home Office opposing the challenge.
Begum’s legal team put forward five grounds to overturn Siac’s decision. But the court of appeal judges, Carr and Lords Justice Bean and Whipple, ruled against her in each instance, an emphatic judgment that gives Begum limited hope in any further appeal.
The judges concluded that “there was no material shortcoming” on the part of Javid “arising out of any failure to take account of the possibility that Ms Begum had been trafficked for the specific purpose of sexual exploitation”.
The then home secretary was aware of “the likelihood that she was a child victim of others who wished to exploit her for sexual or extremist reasons”. But they held he was entitled to conclude that fears she posed a risk to national security were more significant because it was “a question of evaluation and judgment” allowed to him in law.
MI5, the domestic spy agency, advised Javid that she was a threat to the UK because Begum had aligned with IS by staying in Syria for four years. In addition, the intelligence agency concluded at the time, “public sentiment is overwhelmingly hostile” to her.
Javid also acted lawfully “despite knowing that she had nowhere else to go” because she retained a theoretical Bangladeshi citizenship. Her lawyer’s argument that Begum was rendered “de facto stateless” because she was not able to go to Bangladesh was irrelevant, because it was trumped by the national security concern.
It would not be possible to do the same today, the judges added, because of her age. “It is important to note that the same decision could no longer be made, because [of] the loss of Ms Begum’s Bangladeshi citizenship when she reached her 21st birthday,” they wrote.
Begum’s lawyers, the judges said, also unsuccessfully argued that citizenship deprivation was “disproportionately applied to British Muslims of certain ethnic minorities” and “impacts detrimentally upon the relations between members of Muslim communities and others”.
National security exemptions to the public sector equality duty allowed Javid to act as he did, the judges concluded.
Next steps, which will include whether Begum wishes to apply for permission to appeal to the UK supreme court, will be discussed at a hearing in a week’s time.