ISIS (and related) "Official" Thread

[Piff Huxtable]

Obama needs to swallow his pride and start to support Assad

there is no moderate opposition in Syria left

 

[thekingsmen]

Is the US government all powerful and involved in every single murder, coup, militant uprising, etc or is it inept enough to name its sponsored terrorist organization the same as a defense contractor for no reason whatsoever other than to feed uneducated internet detectives clues? Please, pick one and run with it. I thought Mossad was running this thing anyway.

You can mock but history has shown involvement around the world from the 1800's to now. Well we are intertwined with Israel Geo-politically and financially.

 

[Kritic]

Apart from a Shia-Sunni bloodbath, the only one capable of stopping the ISIS is IRAN.

They have already moved in and have men in Iraq, and we can never be sure how much because of how they blend in with Shia millitias.
These are Pasadran of al quds brigades and are experts at insurgency and counter insurgency, and good at hiding them selves.
Trust me there could be far more already in Basra, and southern Baghdad.

I heard something about the mosul fall, apparently the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army defended Mosul, theIraqi army mostly sunni bolted and ran, some even joined ISIS. The Peshmerga fought and held on but where ordered to retreat as the situation was advantagous for the Kurda back a month ago.

Another thing is that Baghdad is now a Shia city, it used to be 40% sunni but now has about 10%,
they were ethnically cleansed a couple of years ago..

Allot of Sunnis will join ISIS to stick it to Al Maliki. The Iraqi army also doesn't get paid salary on time.

Iran really are the ones who can get rid of ISIS. Assad is winning in Syria due to the Iranian brigades and the general he has who has become his defacto chief in the war

+rep. good to hear the homie asssad is holding his own and serving lawses. but this isis was probably set up to bring him down because the main agenda over there is him out.

 

[Olu Dara]

Its a shame they're being brainwashed by their religious leaders to commit crimes for Allah.

They are being sponsored and brainwashed by the cia

a lot of these "religious leaders" are cia sponsored

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

You can mock but history has shown involvement around the world from the 1800's to now. Well we are intertwined with Israel Geo-politically and financially.

You're backtracking. Of course they're involved in the Middle East. That much is obvious. What I have issue with is you implying the defense contractor ISIS is a front for the militant organization ISIS run by a joint Mossad-CIA operation. A front is supposed to draw attention away from whatever's going on, not be named the same thing. The acronym ISIS is hardly unique.

 

[Type Username Here]

I support the President's decision to clean up our government's mess. Shouldn't have boosted these fukkers in the first place to get rid of Assad. Protecting the KRG should be an American priority since not one soldier died there from hostilities in the entire war (if I recall correctly). Probably the only region in both Gulf wars that were at least somewhat welcoming to US intervention.

This is the time to admit a mistake was made, a time to expose Saudi ties to this group and to finally have a meaningful relationship with Iran which builds on our shaky diplomacy by joining forces to defeat this nonsense. Then hopefully our government can pull funding from Israel and the Saudi Arabia, and prop up these Shia governments to counter-combat the influence of the Arab and Zionist regimes.

One can dream.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Obama needs to swallow his pride and start to support Assad

there is no moderate opposition in Syria left

Didn't Obama call for him to step down

Obeezy just need to stay in the house till 2016. Relax

 

[DonFrancisco]

Trying to get rid of ISIS will be very difficult to do. ISIS power comes from its military prowess and local ( probably forced) Sunni support and soldiers. At the same time, as much as I hate war and military action, this might unfortunately be what we may have to do. Our business, political, and military interest are endangered in Iraq and the Middle East.

Essentially this has to be a long and sustained effort in a diplomatic and military effort to get rid of ISIS. If the US can't commit a long an sustained military and diplomatic effort, they might as well save the money and let Iraq fall. Air strikes and limited ground forces will not be enough to take on ISIS, there has to be convert and public diplomatic efforts to erode their support and encourage Sunni to take a stand against them.

 

[Jhoon]

Trying to get rid of ISIS will be very difficult to do. ISIS power comes from its military prowess and local ( probably forced) Sunni support and soldiers. At the same time, as much as I hate war and military action, this might unfortunately be what we may have to do. Our business, political, and military interest are endangered in Iraq and the Middle East.

Just like Neo had to return back to the source, those losers should be allowed to return home, to the origin of extremism of the last 30-40 years.

 

[Shogun]

We droppin them thangs again

Change you can believe in

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Trying to get rid of ISIS will be very difficult to do. ISIS power comes from its military prowess and local ( probably forced) Sunni support and soldiers. At the same time, as much as I hate war and military action, this might unfortunately be what we may have to do. Our business, political, and military interest are endangered in Iraq and the Middle East.

Essentially this has to be a long and sustained effort in a diplomatic and military effort to get rid of ISIS. If the US can't commit a long an sustained military and diplomatic effort, they might as well save the money and let Iraq fall. Air strikes and limited ground forces will not be enough to take on ISIS, there has to be convert and public diplomatic efforts to erode their support and encourage Sunni to take a stand against them.

Their strength comes from their reputation and ability to operate openly without the fear of their infrastructure being attacked from the air. These guys are rolling a couple thousands deep and the Iraqi army crumbles because of inept leadership and fear of what will happen if they get captured, even though they have to strength to push them back. If you hit a couple of their convoys and weapons caches, their ability to operate in the open deteriorates along with the fear factor they bring to the table. They'll still have a presence in the country, but they wont be able to control large portions of land.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Their strength comes from their reputation and ability to operate openly without the fear of their infrastructure being attacked from the air. These guys are rolling a couple thousands deep and the Iraqi army crumbles because of inept leadership and fear of what will happen if they get captured, even though they have to strength to push them back. If you hit a couple of their convoys and weapons caches, their ability to operate in the open deteriorates along with the fear factor they bring to the table. They'll still have a presence in the country, but they wont be able to control large portions of land.

I mostly agree with you but I said the statement because I don't know how powerful they are and how deep they are entrenched in the Sunni population. I'm also surprised how powerless Pershmerga were against ISIS and how well trained they are. I kinda believe you but I kinda get the feeling that ISIS is more powerful than what it seems like. One thing is for sure, they are very well trained and have very intelligent leadership. Most of their actions are very strategic.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

I mostly agree with you but I said the statement because I don't know how powerful they are and how deep they are entrenched in the Sunni population. I'm also surprised how powerless Pershmerga were against ISIS and how well trained they are. I kinda believe you but I kinda get the feeling that ISIS is more powerful than what it seems like. One thing is for sure, they are very well trained and have very intelligent leadership. Most of their actions are very strategic.

Yea, I thought the Kurds would hold it down too, but I think if the US starts attacking ISIS from the air, the situation on the ground will change completely.

Mossad and CIA did a great job training them for sure

 

[valet]

Man talks about Christian kids being beheaded.
http://news.msn.com/world/video?videoid=2bfdecd8-28d6-bd10-3bdb-9fe0cecfe467#tscptmf

For American Christians who were in support of the Iraq, you sure it wasn't better for Christians in that country with Saddamm ruling?

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

For American Christians who were in support of the Iraq, you sure it wasn't better for Christians in that country with Saddamm ruling?

Yu think they gave a fukk about them?