is this Bray Wyatt /Fiend push is the most non sustainable push ever?
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Metal Face
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Bray saved his career doing this gimmick...will they eventually fukk it up, of course.
But I'mma just try to enjoy it for now
But I'mma just try to enjoy it for now
DamienWayne
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Lord tensai
They are going to ruin the character by overexposing it. There is no sense in giving him a title shot 2 months in. Right now he doesn’t need the belt. He is way over doing the surprised attacks. In a few months, when or if, where the Fiend is a limited character and Bray Wyatt is the primary persona, then it would be time to give him the belt. It’ll also be dumb to have Seth beat him. The only logical solution is to Finn come back as the demon to cost Bray the win. I don’t like that idea either, because it’s to early to do that much, but it’s the best case scenario for this match imo
Just like all good things, WWE will eventually ruin it - but even worse, the fans will discard it and this thread is proof. Read the posts.
'Why are they giving him a title match so early?'
The Fiend portrayal is a couple months old but Firefly FunHouse has been going on since at least April. That's at least 5 months which is plenty time to build a title run. Especially on a weekly live show, 5 months is at least 20 weeks of build. And those early funhouse segments were literally just a build up for the Fiend.
I'll argue that giving him the belt now is no worse than having him come out and attack random people for another 2 months. If they don't act too fast they risk running the gimmick into the ground while the audience cools off to it. Let him go over now because people are gonna move on by Thanksgiving anyway. Strike while the iron is hot.
'Why are they giving him a title match so early?'
The Fiend portrayal is a couple months old but Firefly FunHouse has been going on since at least April. That's at least 5 months which is plenty time to build a title run. Especially on a weekly live show, 5 months is at least 20 weeks of build. And those early funhouse segments were literally just a build up for the Fiend.
I'll argue that giving him the belt now is no worse than having him come out and attack random people for another 2 months. If they don't act too fast they risk running the gimmick into the ground while the audience cools off to it. Let him go over now because people are gonna move on by Thanksgiving anyway. Strike while the iron is hot.
I can kind of see where you coming from but I don’t remember a time where a monster/giant getting the title, let alone a title shot so quickly in WWE. I don’t count the funhouse segments because that was building up promotion for a return, not a feud. I think a better run would to have him squash a mid carder like Rey mysterio first. Next would be a 2 PPV feud with Finn. One match with Finn and one with the demon. Then Bray could move to a feud with Braun. After that feud ends, then he should move to a title shot. In between the feuds, he can attack random people to build up his character.
I guess my main issue is that he has a cool character, it’s just a hard character to sustain without burning it out. Eventually they will have to throttle back the Fiend aspect and only use it sparingly
Homer Simpson
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I don't know why you consider them irrelevant. Obviously the segments were used (for months) to build up a particular character. If the character is the hottest thing on the show and is currently in the hottest feud, just give him the belt. Why not? We overthink this too much. That's where they went wrong with Braun during the Roman feud.You don't build a champ with irrelevant vignettes
The point of in ring bookings (wins and losses) are to build up characters. If you can build a character out of the ring, why not? I would argue it's a better option than having him go over other lukewarm acts that cant afford to lose (like Balor), hotter acts that are a higher priority on WWE's agenda that Bray will ultimately lose the feud to (Like Kofi around wrestlemania time) - or worse, putting him in feuds with cold acts who nobody cares about, will not get heat and just overexposes The Fiend character and Wyatt's inring short comings.
If we know WWE the way we claim to, it's pretty obvious that Rollins will eventually go over in the feud - so have Bray win the belt now and let Rollins chase him until the character cools off, then give Rollins the program at the end. Otherwise you risk The Fiend not being hot enough to get the belt later.
I agree it's too early to push The Fiend character in the title picture.I don't even really think a character like this needs the belt but I suppose WWE already made a spooky belt they hope to sell kids around Halloween with twigs and other scary things on it.
Most monster heel pushes are unsustainable. They're always two losses away from irrelevancy, the defeat and the rematch to establish it wasn't a fluke. They're made to be vanquished and get somebody else over but let's hope it isn't Rollins. Giving him all the accolades and titles (Kingslayer, beast slayer) have done nothing for him and it would make The Fiend look like a chump. He should mostly play his warped Steve from Blue's Clues character.
Most monster heel pushes are unsustainable. They're always two losses away from irrelevancy, the defeat and the rematch to establish it wasn't a fluke. They're made to be vanquished and get somebody else over but let's hope it isn't Rollins. Giving him all the accolades and titles (Kingslayer, beast slayer) have done nothing for him and it would make The Fiend look like a chump. He should mostly play his warped Steve from Blue's Clues character.
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Nah they can do a lot to keep him fresh, but the question is if they'll do it or not.
As good as the whole build-up for the character has been and how I'm a fan of it, it's still Bray Wyatt under that mask and that means it's still Bray Wyatt wrestling
As good as the whole build-up for the character has been and how I'm a fan of it, it's still Bray Wyatt under that mask and that means it's still Bray Wyatt wrestling
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Sting was one of the most over dudes ever at one point and dude would come down from the rafters and point a bat without saying anything.
Some Nitros he’d only be shown sitting in the rafters
He was literally a good guy boogeyman building toward one of the biggest matches (fumbled of course) in WCW history.
Long story short, it’s not broke yet, don’t try and change it yet
True...... but that was a different era where fans weren’t hypercritical or everyone thinks they’re a comedian and qualified booker.
Gas was also under a dolla back then too
Not even the Sting thing work today or Hogan.
People are too cynical and bore easy
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Sting was one of the most over dudes ever at one point and dude would come down from the rafters and point a bat without saying anything.
Some Nitros he’d only be shown sitting in the rafters
He was literally a good guy boogeyman building toward one of the biggest matches (fumbled of course
Long story short, it’s not broke yet, don’t try and change it yet
True...... but that was a different era where fans weren’t hypercritical or everyone thinks they’re a comedian and qualified booker.
Gas was also under a dolla back then too
Not even the Sting thing work today or Hogan.
People are too cynical and bore easy
At best this is a situation like Taker where within a year of debuting they had him quickly win and just as quickly lose the title and then transitioned him into his own little bubble of fukkery angles for many years before they tried it again.
What's likely to happen here:
1.Seth beats him either clean or some kind of fukk finish and they have a 3 month feud that goes nowhere and fans don't give a shyt by the end.
2. The Fiend wins the title on the first try, has nowhere to go and no motivation as a character, which then needs to be on TV constantly and within a month he's just Bray Wyatt from 2014 again.
3. The Fiend wins the title, has a couple of nothing feuds, loses it by or at the Rumble, is in a mid card match at WM.
What's likely to happen here:
1.Seth beats him either clean or some kind of fukk finish and they have a 3 month feud that goes nowhere and fans don't give a shyt by the end.
2. The Fiend wins the title on the first try, has nowhere to go and no motivation as a character, which then needs to be on TV constantly and within a month he's just Bray Wyatt from 2014 again.
3. The Fiend wins the title, has a couple of nothing feuds, loses it by or at the Rumble, is in a mid card match at WM.