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:rudy: Please. fukk a Bilal. Lol@"offensive" and "sickening." Why? Who is he to you?

what kinda pro-black argument is tethered on calling a highly respected black man a token negro? it's amazing. it really betrays complete mental superficiality as far as I'm concerned.
 

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what kinda pro-black argument is tethered on calling a highly respected black man a token negro? it's amazing. it really betrays complete mental superficiality as far as I'm concerned.

Highly respected by the oppressors of his people who consider him "one of the good ones? :rudy:

He is used as a token by Muslims. They only cite him to try and say he's evidence that Islam never supported institutional racism, as if Muhammad putting one nikka on stage to sing negates the Arab slave trade.

I have no clue why you're talking about people not holding Bilal in some position of undeserved reverence is "dumb, "sickening, "offensive," etc. Maybe you could make a more compelling case if you didn't engage in these curt, outraged histrionics about people not :salute: someone who didn't do anything but sing well and be well-liked by the people who enslaved him. I could give two fukks about Bilal and don't see why anyone who isn't a Muslim should.
 

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Highly respected by the oppressors of his people who consider him "one of the good ones? :rudy:

He is used as a token by Muslims. They only cite him to try and say he's evidence that Islam never supported institutional racism, as if Muhammad putting one nikka on stage to sing negates the Arab slave trade.

I have no clue why you're talking about people not holding Bilal in some position of undeserved reverence is "dumb, "sickening, "offensive," etc. Maybe you could make a more compelling case if you didn't engage in these curt, outraged histrionics about people not :salute: someone who didn't do anything but sing well and be well-liked by the people who enslaved him. I could give two fukks about Bilal and don't see why anyone who isn't a Muslim should.

He's only cited in these contexts cause this is the only context you engage Muslims in that would bring him up. He's highly respected in the Islamic tradition just like Ali and all the rest of them. He isn't a divine or theological entity so people's respect for him isn't bound up in religion per se. I'm not saying you should revere him but the wanton over the top hatorade is not some normal reaction from non-muslims, it's reserved for the surreally bilious sorts of perspectives you guys have on here

I'm sure you're ready to go for dozens of rounds on this as usual but that's basically all I have to say on this matter. I consider much of HL including this periodic argument incredibly vacuous.
 

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He's only cited in these contexts cause this is the only context you engage Muslims in that would bring him up. He's highly respected in the Islamic tradition just like Ali and all the rest of them. He isn't a divine or theological entity so people's respect for him isn't bound up in religion per se. I'm not saying you should revere him but the wanton over the top hatorade is not some normal reaction from non-muslims, it's reserved for the surreally bilious sorts of perspectives you guys have on here

I'm sure you're ready to go for dozens of rounds on this as usual but that's basically all I have to say on this matter. I consider much of HL including this periodic argument incredibly vacuous.

So like I said, I see no reason why any non-Muslim should give a flying fukk about Bilal. He can be highly respected in the Islamic tradition. People who don't give a fukk about Islam don't owe him anything. So cut out all this "dumb/offensive/sickening/don't know anything about _____ " histrionic rhetoric. The "over the top haterade" here is coming from you.

If people here were dissing Bilal, it was probably less genuine "over the top haterade" than it was a defensive reaction to yall using him as token in your attempts to spray some Armor-all on the steaming pile of shyt that is Islam's history on race relations as it pertains to black Africans.
 
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