Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

[Wild self]

Let them get rid of all the illegals and actually see if more citizens go for labor jobs. This far into it might as well see if it works out that way.

It didn't happen in FL, where all the immigrants were basically ran out of the state thanks to DeSantis, and no citizen is willing to do those essential labor jobs like building housing or fixing stuff.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

It didn't happen in FL, where all the immigrants were basically ran out of the state thanks to DeSantis, and no citizen is willing to do those essential labor jobs like building housing or fixing stuff.

Happened in GA too

The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

Although many Americans believe immigrants “steal” our jobs and push down our wages, economists find little evidence of that.

www.forbes.com

 

[kingofnyc]

They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.

‘the people of this country have the right not to want them here

 

[Buddy]

This issue exposed a lot of people lack of tangible skills on the job market because in no such way, can a middle school drop out that cannot speak English, can just take my office job


This thread exposes the people that LIE about their situation. Even if you don't have the profession or the wage you desire at the moment, are brehs really THAT depressed and never aspire to do better???

And our supppsed station in society... If nothing else, this thread has opened my eyes to how brehs gravitated toward this shyt in the first place. But this haphazard crash course where whatever happens, happens and that's fine cause "I'm FBA" (and we're used to things getting worse) is outta pocket. I don't trust that kinda mindset posing as the arbiters my #Lineage

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

It comes from the fear of immigrants doing to the white population here did to the natives, and the other non whites.

Immigrants are a net positive in gdp growth. They put money in the system but don't get the benefits. Without them we would be feeling the full effect of the lopsided tax system that skews to the wealthy

 

[10bandz]

they turning whole blocks into swap meets and nikkas here still playing stupid

 

[Mike809]

Coli being anti-immigration when it comes to the US , and pro when it’s other countries is crazy.

 

[Uachet]

It comes from the fear of immigrants doing to the white population here did to the natives, and the other non whites.

Immigrants are a net positive in gdp growth. They put money in the system but don't get the benefits. Without them we would be feeling the full effect of the lopsided tax system that skews to the wealthy

"• We estimate that 59 percent of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more welfare programs, creating roughly $42 billion in costs. We also estimate that the children of illegal immigrants, who are mostly U.S.-born, cost public schools $68.1 billion.

• Illegal immigrants can receive welfare on behalf of U.S.-born children. Millions also have work authorization (e.g. DACA and asylum applicants), allowing receipt of the EITC. In addition, illegal immigrant children can directly use some programs like WIC.

• High welfare use is not caused by an unwillingness to work. In fact, illegal immigrantheaded households are more likely to have a worker present than U.S.-born households.

• Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate they paid nearly $26 billion in income and payroll taxes in 2019.

• Illegal immigrants do add perhaps $321 billion to the nation’s GDP, but this is not a measure of their tax contributions or the benefits they create for the U.S.-born. Almost all the increase in economic activity goes to the illegal immigrants themselves in the form of wages."

The Consequences of Illegal Immigration for Housing Affordability, Government Budgets, and American Workers
Wednesday, September 25, 2024

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Camarota-Testimony.pdf

What you are saying, and what was actually told to Congress are at odds with each other. What you are hearing as talking points given to you to support illegal immigration is not what Congress is actually receiving as the impact of Illegal Immigration. So, I will go with the experts on this issue who reported on this before the previous election.

 

[Afrodroid]

My issue is their anti-black racism.

 

[AngryBaby]

You obviously don't live in NYC where the shift is actually felt.

I live in chicago,so you cant pull that with me, its still doesnt affect my life. Rent prices, inflation, racism being emboldened, does affect me.

 

[Uachet]

I live in chicago,so you cant pull that with me, its still doesnt affect my life. Rent prices, inflation, racism being emboldened, does affect me.

I want your position to be made crystal clear if you can. Am I correct in asserting that you do not care how any of this harms Black Americans, as long as it does not harm you in particular? Meaning, since you are fine, you will support it even if it causes problems for other Black Americans?

Well, I may be making a mistake in assuming you are a Black American. If you are not, then your position is perfectly fine with me. I do not expect non-Black Americans to care at all about Black Americans.

 

[Plankton]

I live in chicago,so you cant pull that with me, its still doesnt affect my life. Rent prices, inflation, racism being emboldened, does affect me.

You don't live in my city and can't relate to what we are going thru here in NYC. You aren't qualified to speak on an issue I'm dealing with. Don't quote me again till you move here and live here.

 

[Peter Popoff]

You obviously don't live in NYC where the shift is actually felt.

And Chicago. They camped out in tents on the Southside.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Not all immigrants are Latino.

And anyway black people shouldn't "support" any particular ethnic group. But there's always going to be some amount of immigrants, that doesn't mean we should support inhumane policies (like separating children from their parents) or be on board with Republican fearmongering.

You know who treats black people like shyt? These fukking crackas who run America. In my 40 years of living, I never experienced racism from Juan or Carlos but I have from Bill and Josh. Ain't shyt an illegal immigrant can do to me because they are powerless. If you are stuck working fast food or in the fields, then maybe you should level up. No way you should be competing with illegals for anything as a grown ass man.

Migrant workers are a net benefit to the country and it’s not even close. That’s why businesses won’t implement e verification.

And if consumers are bytching about price of eggs now, there would be gnashing of teeth if all migrants were Thanos snapped back to their home countries.

Illegal immigration is just another manufactured issue to keep cacs outraged and voting Republican. It’s abortion, gay rights, welfare, Islamic terrorism.

Conservative politicians always need a boogey man to scare majority of white people. One day it’s communism, a few decades later it’s Islamic terrorism or gays and ALWAYS, always black people.

All of these.
Not only have the Republican party convinced poor whites to vote for them despite the fact they(GOP) will take the resources they rely on to get by. The GOP some how convince black folks that the problem isn't the wealthy that are red lining, limiting funds, and taking away rights and resources, but that the problem is immigrants that are coming to take our jobs.

We are in late stage capitalism and we are trying to hold it together with tape.

 

[Peter Popoff]

I live in chicago,so you cant pull that with me, its still doesnt affect my life. Rent prices, inflation, racism being emboldened, does affect me.

You're an anomaly, no offense.

My wife and literally all her friends and family have an issue with the illegal immigrants crisis in Chicago.

My family in NY and all my friends, same shıt. I've literally never heard anyone say it hasn't affected them.