Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

[Sonic Boom of the South]

It's people at the bottom pulling each other down so nobody gets out. It's American society in a nutshell. The rich and powerful get whatever they want but let someone that's not too far off from me get something and I'm upset as fukk about it.

Example: all the corporate welfare that goes out and it's not a problem to all these people but COVID hit and normal people got handouts and people lost their shit. I work a blue collar job and people were getting upset at it that McDonalds workers were fighting for $15 an hour back then because they felt threatened somebody working a shyt job would get closer to a living wage. The whole being against the public option for healthcare.

Our whole society is poor and middle class people infighting over bullshit while the rich steal the farm and nobody really says shit.

Yeah... I am specifically talking about the actual phrase.



The crabs in a bucket literally.


Mafukkas really act like crabs would be able to escape from the humans that put them in the bucket in the 1st place, if the crabs just escaped the bucket.

 

[Born2BKing]

More like construction and landscaping, but keep playing stupid.

Or are you not playing?

What solves the issue without getting them outta here? I have to hear this

The issue of systemic racism? Programs and financial benefits for the black community. Things like affirmative action and DEI initiatives. Small business loans targeted at the black community was at an all time high under the Biden administration, which I think was super helpful. I could go on and on but thats a quick summary.

 

[jadillac]

So we should find a way to plug those jobs without migrants. It's doable.

I don't think you are being realistic in thinking white ppl will be, for example, out in fields picking fruit and vegetables for work.

It's also not lost on the sneakiness of trying to make things WORSE on minorities by removing programs in place to allow fair, ethical hiring. Sneaky bc it's trying to make Black and Hispanics suffer financially so they become destitute and are forced to take slavery-similar jobs.

 

[heavenlywings77]

No this is policy breh
Trump's policy will make harder for our kids to earn a valuable education
Trump's policy for H1-B's will ensure high skilled immigrants will leap frog us for high paying positions
Trump's policy for "Gold cards" will bring elite business owners that are gonna hire their own.


We aren't left with shyt but low education fit for the manual labor illegals were doing and somehow brehs really think this is a step in the right direction Illegal immigrants need to be blamed for frying people's brains more than anything

And I would wholly agree with you! The only thing is, I'm FBA. There's never been a time where my people haven't experienced this consistently from the country's inception. That's why I'm coming from a kind of standpoint.

 

[voiture]

They should at least make an effort to speak English. I don't fukk with Trump but him designating English as the official language is something I support.
If they are not criminals and just want to work we should give them legal status but they must speak the language.

 

[voiture]

There's legitimate concern there but it's like 8th or 9th on the list of issues we face as a people.

If there are 11 million illegals in the country, removing them will lower housing costs.
Actually I think housing is the reason why people are starting to hate illegal immigration. It wasn't a problem when I was growing up. Reagan even gave them amnesty.

 

[winb83]

They should at least make an effort to speak English. I don't fukk with Trump but him designating English as the official language is something I support.
If they are not criminals and just want to work we should give them legal status but they must speak the language.

I mean I don't disagree that they should learn the language the majority here speak but also if they don't need to speak it shouldn't matter.

 

[Buddy]

And I would wholly agree with you! The only thing is, I'm FBA. There's never been a time where my people haven't experienced this consistently from the country's inception. That's why I'm coming from a kind of standpoint.

You're "FBA" so you would rather see our kids dumbed down and primed for low skilled labor??? Because illegal immigrants?

 

[Uachet]

You know who treats black people like shyt? These fukking crackas who run America. In my 40 years of living, I never experienced racism from Juan or Carlos but I have from Bill and Josh. Ain't shyt an illegal immigrant can do to me because they are powerless. If you are stuck working fast food or in the fields, then maybe you should level up. No way you should be competing with illegals for anything as a grown ass man.

Yes, and we both know that. You want to bring in more people who support those same very people who treat us like crap. Do you not see how your position is oxymoronic at best? There are plenty of examples on this very website of them being racist towards our people when they are in power, when they are police officers, when they have a majority in an area and our people are a minority. You may have not experienced racism from them, but many of us have. I lived in LA, I know how they got down. People in Chicago are complaining about them, they know how they get down. People in NY are complaining about them, they also know how they get down. So your experience is not the totality of the experience our people have with them.

What I do find amazing in all of this is that you are so willing to discount the experiences of other Black Americans in favor of your support for hispanic illegal immigrants. This shows to me that you really don't give a damn about issues that concern our people, you are just a supporter of Democratic policies even when they harm us. Even when I have placed up here on this very website a Congressional report on how illegal immigrations harms Black Americans. You could not care one iota about that, you are more concerned with pushing the policies you are told by the Democratic Party you should support.

I am about Black Americans first, and I look at policies through a lens of how it affects our people. I don't look at it just on a personal level, but also on a general level of how our people overall are affected by them. You have demonstrated to me just now, that is not the case for you.

 

[Uachet]

Your mans Obama was in office when this report was done and published, so how will you spin this?

The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers

The report examines evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration.

www.usccr.gov

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

Exactly. I posted this report a couple of times on this forum too. They don't care about the truth, they only care about the narrative they are told to run with. If he comes back and discount the report with how they are not harming him personally, you then know just how much of a Democratic American he is, and how little real empathy he has for Black Americans. Yet, he expressess so much empathy for illegals coming up into the country who bring their brand of racism with them, and also seem to support Trump even when he told them he would deport them.

Simply put, he will not be able to make his position make any sense at all.

 

[Kasgoinjail]

The rest of the world just sitting back watching America show their ass tbh

 

[Uachet]

So you mean them illegals are taking our fast food jobs? You blame them for supplanting us and not white supremacy huh? What do you think the real reason is we are still stuck battling for the lowest of low when it comes to jobs? Venezuelans? Mexican who can't speak english?

Oh damn, you did exactly what I thought you would do. Demonstrating just how little empathy you have for 6/10 Black Americans who are a part of the low to no skilled workforce.

So you are not pro-Black, you are only pro-Democratic policies. You care more for illegals than Black Americans, and your post above just proves it.

 

[voiture]

I mean I don't disagree that they should learn the language the majority here speak but also if they don't need to speak it shouldn't matter.

Then they shouldn't move into a country where these constitution is written in a language they do not plan to learn.
shyt like this is why Trump keeps winning on this issue. Common sense means if you want to move somewhere learn the language. Even broken English is better than no English.

 

[KamikazePilot]

It’s a gigantic problem from the companies using them as cheap labor to drive down wages, to their anti black American racism/xenophic bias, to their lack of understanding the culture, to American cities not having enough housing to house everyone yes it’s a huge problem. I hate how Black liberals want us to go extinct. The pedestal they put immigrants especially illegal ones on is crazy.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Black people should be accepting of all immigrants with open arms. Love trumps hate and racism