Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

Yzak

Superstar
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
3,921
Reputation
484
Daps
14,710
I find it amazing how the argument about many of them from below the border being very racist and even supporters of Trump is being ignored. Why should we as Black people support the influx of a people who are outright racist towards us, cause harm to us when they outnumber us, and have shown many times in actual news articles how they will harm us when they feel they have the upperhand?

Why should we support a people who have come from nations that treat their own Black people like shyte, that champion the idea of the removal of all non-White blood from their genepool as demonstrated by their saying of, "Mejorar la Raza". The phrase meaning, 'improve the race.' It implies that you should marry or have children with a whiter person so you'll have better-looking kids. Why should we as Black Americans support a major influx of these sort of people into the country illegally?

Please, explain why we should be open to a people coming here who outright hate us?
They always skip over this. Any Black person supporting immigration is a c00n
 

TripleAgent

Instructing Space Cowboy's mama on the blade
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
36,765
Reputation
5,637
Daps
93,133
Reppin
Baltimore
So you mean them illegals are taking our fast food jobs? You blame them for supplanting us and not white supremacy huh? :russ: What do you think the real reason is we are still stuck battling for the lowest of low when it comes to jobs? Venezuelans? Mexican who can't speak english? :russ:
More like construction and landscaping, but keep playing stupid.

Or are you not playing? :jbhmm:

What solves the issue without getting them outta here? I have to hear this :mjlol:
 

CrimsonTider

Seduce & Scheme
WOAT
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
83,968
Reputation
-13,837
Daps
132,611
How is it felt? A lot of there people are even paying taxes into the system.
How do you pay federal taxes without a Social security number?

How do you know how much sales tax and undocumented immigrant pays? No one ask for your citizenship when you’re buying something from retail

These numbers aren’t reliable
 

Jasonmask

Superstar
Joined
Oct 30, 2017
Messages
9,552
Reputation
2,770
Daps
26,174
They're just an easy punching bag because they have no power or rights.

Their being here does little to hurt black people compared to the foot on neck policies of white supremacy - the real problem.

So you'll have black people believing in this dream of "once we get the illegal immigrants out then white people will allow us to flourish"
Ok this is wrong and I’ll tell you why. When immigrants come here 9/10 they move into black neighborhoods and just slowly but surely infest the rest of the neighborhood in years and push the black residents out either through force or just how some of them live. Cops don’t live in primarily black neighborhoods. I’ll go even further to say that in areas where illegal immigrants have numbers kill more of our people than police officers do.
 

Buddy

Keep my name out of it
Joined
Apr 28, 2014
Messages
21,132
Reputation
7,317
Daps
87,943
So...we should support being supplanted by illegals be cause your chosen cacs with a D by their names said so? Why would we do that? It's been hurting Black people for decades. No Democrat excuses or narrative can change that FACT.
I'm just tryna make sure I understand this correctly: Does being relegated to manual labor while the high paying jobs and business ownership go to skilled, legal immigrants make yall feel better?
 

Robbie3000

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
May 20, 2012
Messages
30,563
Reputation
5,686
Daps
136,159
Reppin
NULL
They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.

Migrant workers are a net benefit to the country and it’s not even close. That’s why businesses won’t implement e verification.

And if consumers are bytching about price of eggs now, there would be gnashing of teeth if all migrants were Thanos snapped back to their home countries.

Illegal immigration is just another manufactured issue to keep cacs outraged and voting Republican. It’s abortion, gay rights, welfare, Islamic terrorism.

Conservative politicians always need a boogey man to scare majority of white people. One day it’s communism, a few decades later it’s Islamic terrorism or gays and ALWAYS, always black people.
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
47,004
Reputation
4,024
Daps
71,205
Reppin
Michigan
So are you saying that's how it should be from now on? This should be the template???

Since Trump broke laws there should be no more laws?
No I'm saying all the people who are here illegally if they can demonstrate they're a positive to their communities (by recommendations of citizens or employment or something like that) and they aren't criminals or hurting anyone give them a path to citizenship and be done with it. I don't care it it's just past a test or pay an upfront fine and pay for a year or two or whatever just give them an path and move on.

This shyt is tired. Many of these people are contributing to society and they should be able to just live. If they were citizens perhaps they'd contribute more.

You can pick any group of people and there will be bad ones. It doesn't make the entire group bad.
 

heavenlywings77

Pro
Bushed
Joined
Mar 24, 2017
Messages
321
Reputation
-16
Daps
743
The two go hand in hand, just walk thru the logic: Elon and Vivek infuriated the public with claims that American's aren't educated or competent enough for high paying jobs > Trump affirmed it > there are NO plans on improving education standards on national level > in fact education is being destroyed


What else does this lead to, if not a worsening of American workers and prioritization of H1-B's etc?



These are 2 politicians opinions. This is a democracy not an oligarchy. Their beliefs are not the end all be all.
There are plenty of educated Americans who can fill any and all high paying careers here in the States.

Education is being destroyed? Maybe history.
 

Buddy

Keep my name out of it
Joined
Apr 28, 2014
Messages
21,132
Reputation
7,317
Daps
87,943
These are 2 politicians opinions. This is a democracy not an oligarchy. Their beliefs are not the end all be all.
There are plenty of educated Americans who can fill any and all high paying careers here in the States.

Education is being destroyed? Maybe history.
No this is policy breh
Trump's policy will make harder for our kids to earn a valuable education
Trump's policy for H1-B's will ensure high skilled immigrants will leap frog us for high paying positions
Trump's policy for "Gold cards" will bring elite business owners that are gonna hire their own.


We aren't left with shyt but low education fit for the manual labor illegals were doing and somehow brehs really think this is a step in the right direction :why: Illegal immigrants need to be blamed for frying people's brains more than anything
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
47,004
Reputation
4,024
Daps
71,205
Reppin
Michigan
I'm gonna take it a step further. All this shit is just racism with a tuxedo put on it to try and make it look better. This whole railing against illegal immigrants just reeks of the same logic white people use when they rail against DEI and wokeness. They come from privilege and that privilege should be reserved for them and others shouldn't have it extended to them. These people are others, they're not like us. They should be beneath us. We all know many of these people are here illegally because the system wouldn't allow them here any other way. They don't have the money and power to make the system work for them.
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
47,004
Reputation
4,024
Daps
71,205
Reppin
Michigan
"Crab in a bucket" is the stupidest saying.

So many old sayings stupid as fukk.
It's people at the bottom pulling each other down so nobody gets out. It's American society in a nutshell. The rich and powerful get whatever they want but let someone that's not too far off from me get something and I'm upset as fuck about it.

Example: all the corporate welfare that goes out and it's not a problem to all these people but COVID hit and normal people got handouts and people lost their shit. I work a blue collar job and people were getting upset at it that McDonalds workers were fighting for $15 an hour back then because they felt threatened somebody working a shit job would get closer to a living wage. The whole being against the public option for healthcare.

Our whole society is poor and middle class people infighting over bullshit while the rich steal the farm and nobody really says shit.
 

CrimsonTider

Seduce & Scheme
WOAT
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
83,968
Reputation
-13,837
Daps
132,611
Migrant workers are a net benefit to the country and it’s not even close. That’s why businesses won’t implement e verification.

And if consumers are bytching about price of eggs now, there would be gnashing of teeth if all migrants were Thanos snapped back to their home countries.

Illegal immigration is just another manufactured issue to keep cacs outraged and voting Republican. It’s abortion, gay rights, welfare, Islamic terrorism.

Conservative politicians always need a boogey man to scare majority of white people. One day it’s communism, a few decades later it’s Islamic terrorism or gays and ALWAYS, always black people.
You’re saying this mainly for cheap wages. I don’t get how paying people Pennies ends up being a net positive for society
No I'm saying all the people who are here illegally if they can demonstrate they're a positive to their communities (by recommendations of citizens or employment or something like that) and they aren't criminals or hurting anyone give them a path to citizenship and be done with it. I don't care it it's just past a test or pay an upfront fine and pay for a year or two or whatever just give them a path and move on.

This shyt is tired. Many of these people are contributing to society and they should be able to just live. If they were citizens perhaps they'd contribute more.

You can pick any group of people and there will be bad ones. It doesn't make the entire group bad.

I'm gonna take it a step further. All this shit is just racism with a tuxedo put on it to try and make it look better. This whole railing against illegal immigrants just reeks of the same logic white people use when they rail against DEI and wokeness. They come from privilege and that privilege should be reserved for them and others shouldn't have it extended to them. These people are others, they're not like us. They should be beneath us. We all know many of these people are here illegally because the system wouldn't allow them here any other way. They don't have the money and power to make the system work for them.
You’ve convinced yourself of something largely because you don’t see any impact from unregulated immigration which we had pretty much up until 2023 when Biden saw how bad he was polling

I’ve mentioned the strained that this puts on local governments and communities and you ignored.

How is having a bunch of unvaccinated people, uninsured people with no identification a benefit for a society?
 
Top