Is the US becoming a Police State?

[88m3]

first thing first, we gotta start by leading by example in our own lives. whatever you want others to do, you have to first do yourself.

once we get our own houses in order, then we can talk about effectively organizing.

Why aren't you dead or in prison?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

the HL and KTL archives are full of examples of you twisting my words and putting words in my mouth (pause), to the extent where it has become a running joke. so if you really believe what you just claimed, youre either in denial, a liar, or completely insane. whatever the case thats your issue to deal with cuz im off it




vic here you go again playin the victim, coppin pleas. you take e-jabs at people all the time so i am the bringer of your karma.

and how many times have you mentioned me in threads i wasnt even posting in victor? let that marinate for a sec

i think youre good on the podcast because we exchange opinions while maintaining respect, but that's something you have never done on these boards. i dropped your name cuz type was displaying one of your characteristics and that was it. you should have either ignored it or come back with an insult of your own and that's what it is.

but dont come back on puss mode

You writing paragraphs trying to lecture me or provide some illustration of karma because of insulting jokes I said about you months or years ago on sohh?

I've said worse and have had worse said to me by many posters who I'm cool and cordial with. People don't hold on to that shyt, man. It's just message board fukkery. Talk about someone being in puss mode. You sounding extra sensitive. Like the homie said on the last podcast, message boards aren't real life. It's not like I ever personally disliked you or anyoneeelse here...we'll maybe Gundam. Someone give this man a hug.

 

[Patrick Kane]

the super wealthy have a disproportionate amount of influence over this countries media,wages,means of production,law enforcement,our elected representatives and the policies they champion

And its like nobody cares at all

Ha, it's scary when you to come to that realization.

Anyone who has studied political science, history and economics will see that America has become a super police state, like the same ones they fought against to build America into the country it is today. It's a full circle cycle. I mean look what they've managed to do in the last 100 years.... they built themselves up substantially economically and developed the military industrial complex.. they crushed the Soviet Union (the "other" major ideology of the world) and have conquered most of the Middle East in the past two decades while still managing to implement the Patriot Act and numerous other bills that have severely limited your civil liberties

America is heading down a very scary path but people are too distracted with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, reality TV shows, the newest Lebron's.... they don't feel their liberties are being threatened at all... but that's because they have all these "things" to keep them distracted. There's a very deep system in place.... I mean just think, most of what we're discussing in this thread isn't anything we've learned from reading newspapers and watching the news. Most of the population is clueless to what's really going on in the world

But it's always been like this throughout history.. but it starts with the few enlightened ones

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Ha, it's scary when you to come to that realization.

Anyone who has studied political science, history and economics will see that America has become a super police state, like the same ones they fought against to build America into the country it is today. It's a full circle cycle. I mean look what they've managed to do in the last 100 years.... they built themselves up substantially economically and developed the military industrial complex.. they crushed the Soviet Union (the "other" major ideology of the world) and have conquered most of the Middle East in the past two decades while still managing to implement the Patriot Act and numerous other bills that have severely limited your civil liberties

America is heading down a very scary path but people are too distracted with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, reality TV shows, the newest Lebron's.... they don't feel their liberties are being threatened at all... but that's because they have all these "things" to keep them distracted. There's a very deep system in place.... I mean just think, most of what we're discussing in this thread isn't anything we've learned from reading newspapers and watching the news. Most of the population is clueless to what's really going on in the world

But it's always been like this throughout history.. but it starts with the few enlightened ones

wise words.

 

[Agent Mulder]

first thing first, we gotta start by leading by example in our own lives. whatever you want others to do, you have to first do yourself.

once we get our own houses in order, then we can talk about effectively organizing.

what's your take on OWS? I thought that was a good start and that the movement had/has the spark needed to enlighten ppl. I was there as much as i could be. could have been organized a bit better but it was definitely effective in getting peoples attention and discussing the income disparity in the country amongst other concerns. what say you?

 

[Nefflum nigga]

Ha, it's scary when you to come to that realization.

Anyone who has studied political science, history and economics will see that America has become a super police state, like the same ones they fought against to build America into the country it is today. It's a full circle cycle. I mean look what they've managed to do in the last 100 years.... they built themselves up substantially economically and developed the military industrial complex.. they crushed the Soviet Union (the "other" major ideology of the world) and have conquered most of the Middle East in the past two decades while still managing to implement the Patriot Act and numerous other bills that have severely limited your civil liberties

America is heading down a very scary path but people are too distracted with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, reality TV shows, the newest Lebron's.... they don't feel their liberties are being threatened at all... but that's because they have all these "things" to keep them distracted. There's a very deep system in place.... I mean just think, most of what we're discussing in this thread isn't anything we've learned from reading newspapers and watching the news. Most of the population is clueless to what's really going on in the world

But it's always been like this throughout history.. but it starts with the few enlightened ones

 

[newworldafro]

NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American — RT
NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American
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Published: 25 July, 2012, 01:55
Edited: 25 July, 2012, 18:41

The TSA, DHS and countless other security agencies have been established to keep America safe from terrorist attacks in post-9/11 America. How far beyond that does the feds’ reach really go, though?
The attacks September 11, 2001, were instrumental in enabling the US government to establish counterterrorism agencies to prevent future tragedies. Some officials say that they haven’t stopped there, though, and are spying on everyone in America — all in the name of national security.
Testimonies delivered in recent weeks by former employees of the National Security Agency suggest that the US government is granting itself surveillance powers far beyond what most Americans consider the proper role of the federal government.
In an interview broadcast on Current TV’s “Viewpoint” program on Monday, former NSA Technical Director William Binney commented on the government’s policy of blanket surveillance, alongside colleagues Thomas Drake and Kirk Wiebe, the agency's respective former Senior Official and Senior Analyst.
The interview comes on the heels of a series of speeches given by Binney, who has quickly become better known for his whistleblowing than his work with the NSA. In their latest appearance this week, though, the three former staffers suggested that America’s spy program is much more dangerous than it seems.
In an interview with “Viewpoint” host Eliot Spitzer, Drake said there was a “key decision made shortly after 9/11, which began to rapidly turn the United States of America into the equivalent of a foreign nation for dragnet blanket electronic surveillance.”
These powers have previously defended by claims of national security necessity, but Drake says that it doesn’t stop there. He warns that the government is giving itself the power to gather intel on every American that could be used in future prosecutions unrelated to terrorism.
“When you open up the Pandora’s Box of just getting access to incredible amounts of data, for people that have no reason to be put under suspicion, no reason to have done anything wrong, and just collect all that for potential future use or even current use, it opens up a real danger — and to what else what they could use that data for, particularly when it’s all being hidden behind the mantle of national security,” Drake said.
Although Drake’s accusations seem astounding, they corroborate allegations made by Binney only a week earlier. Speaking at the Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York City earlier this month, Binney addressed a room of thousands about the NSA’s domestic spying efforts. But in a candid interview with journalist Geoff Shively during HOPE, the ex-NSA official candidly revealed the full extent of the surveillance program.
“Domestically, they're pulling together all the data about virtually every U.S. citizen in the country and assembling that information, building communities that you have relationships with, and knowledge about you; what your activities are; what you're doing. So the government is accumulating that kind of information about every individual person and it's a very dangerous process,” Binney said.
Drake and Binney’s statements follow the revelation that law enforcement officers collected cell phone records on 1.3 million Americans in 2011. More news articles are emerging every day suggesting that the surveillance of Americans — off-the-radar and under wraps — is growing at an exponential rate.

 

[Captain Crunch]

It's amazing how art imitates reality, I wonder when we'll see the Thought Police.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

All the pieces are in place. The catalyst to put everything in motion is not

 

[OsO]

what's your take on OWS? I thought that was a good start and that the movement had/has the spark needed to enlighten ppl. I was there as much as i could be. could have been organized a bit better but it was definitely effective in getting peoples attention and discussing the income disparity in the country amongst other concerns. what say you?

my fault bruhva, im just now seein this.



i think OWS was a good positive step in the right direction. people were raising their awareness level, people were critically analyzing the unequal financial mechanisms of society (which is the first step in overcoming them), and people were organizing around these principles. and although the OWS movement has subsided somewhat, many of the individuals who participated in OWS are still organizing to this day and building out systems and strategies to fight economic injustice, just a little more underground and in smaller groups .. so all that is great.

but i think OWS would ultimately have been more effective if they focused on creating internal networks of economic cooperation to solve our economic crisis.

OWS should have been defined as an economic community for the people, a place where we could DEMONSTRATE the principles of entrepreneurship and community economics. community economics defined here as an economic system that benefits both the individual and the larger community in its functionality. the link between individual and community becomes a synergistic relationship whereas when one is successful, the other is also successful. so as the community thrives, the individual also thrives.

which is in stark contrast to our current system where success is viewed as having to come at someone else's expense... that any food you wanna eat is coming off someone elses plate and vice versa.

but the reality of community economics is whats good for the community is ultimately good for the individual and vice versa, so its almost always a win-win.

 

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