is the gold crash finally here?

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then it's even more amazing you think the dollar will last as a fiat currency.

tell me, what will have longer lasting value as a means of exchange, the dollar or gold?
Neither is going anywhere any time soon. I don't know where you're getting all this "the dollar is dying" bullshyt from, but whoever gave you your information is taking you for a long ride.

The total value of the U.S. bond market is about $35 trillion. The total value of all the gold ever mined is only about $8 trillion.

Anyway...

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Yeah bruh, gold is going to lead us into the next century. :dead:
 

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Neither is going anywhere any time soon. I don't know where you're getting all this "the dollar is dying" bullshyt from, but whoever gave you your information is taking you for a long ride.

The total value of the U.S. bond market is about $35 trillion. The total value of all the gold ever mined is only about $8 trillion.

Anyway...

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Yeah bruh, gold is going to lead us into the next century. :dead:


so you think the dollar is strong? you think the fundamentals of the US economy are strong?

i cant believe you're denying the downward trajectory of the dollar, but that just reenforces my point you dont know shyt about economics. the powers that be make their living on gullible fishes like you because you're not paying attention to the details of our economic climate.

everybody who is anybody in the world knows the dollar is on the decline as a global currency. and the scariest part for us is no one knows where the bottom is.

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and on the point of gold you are, once again, mis-stating my position.

my position is gold is stronger than the dollar, always has been and always will be. and i have nothing but 6000 years of empirical data to back that up.

damn you's a bytch ass nikka... please dont even respond unless you're going to say something intelligent.
 

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so you think the dollar is strong? you think the fundamentals of the US economy are strong?

The dollar is doing fine. This is not something that is subjective or debatable. It's math.

For the past 5 years, the euro vs. the dollar...

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The dollar vs. the yen...

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I could go on. Do you even attempt to support anything you say with objective fact? Do you even believe in the concept of reality?

i cant believe you're denying the downward trajectory of the dollar, but that just reenforces my point you dont know shyt about economics.

The dollar is not on a downward trajectory, and I just proved it to you with math you imbecile. The dollar is the strongest currency in the world. That is a FACT. The dollar accounts for 90% of foreign trade.

Regarding me not knowing anything about economics. Economics definitely isn't my forte, but I try to educate myself on it. I try to familiarize myself with various economic theories and concepts, and understand the different schools of thought on it. I'm reading Freefall by Joseph Stiglitz right now and I'm about 2/3 through. So if someone more learned in the field told me I didn't know shyt about economics, I couldn't even be mad. :ehh:

But when a complete, colossal category 5 moron like you tells me I don't know shyt about economics I have to :laff: You are a total vacuous blank slate on economics. You've never read a book on economics in your entire life. You can't even name any prominent economists or economic theories, must less began to understand what they say.

the powers that be make their living on gullible fishes like you because you're not paying attention to the details of our economic climate.

You don't know shyt about...really anything, honestly. You're probably just skim a couple of stupid anti-intellectual conspiratorial websites and youtube vids that cater to people of your intelligence and education level and pretend you know one iota about the world. You probably couldn't even understand the basic concepts in an "Economics for dummies" book. You're probably the most uninformed fukk I've ever talked to here. And you have to nerve to act all arrogant. :smh:

everybody who is anybody in the world knows the dollar is on the decline as a global currency. and the scariest part for us is no one knows where the bottom is.

Except that that's not true and you completely made it up and going to yahoo or google finance on your computer right now and looking up currency exchange rates would prove what an idiot you are. But you probably don't even know how to do that.

and on the point of gold you are, once again, mis-stating my position.

my position is gold is stronger than the dollar, always has been and always will be. and i have nothing but 6000 years of empirical data to back that up.
lol...except it isn't and you just made that up like you do everything.

damn you's a bytch ass nikka... please dont even respond unless you're going to say something intelligent.
I don't say anything but facts and empirical data. You are simply an incurable idiot. You're stupid and there's nothing that anyone can do to help with your condition. Lord knows people here have tried, but at this point, everybody's lost patience and given up on you. You don't support anything you say with an data, and when people proven you wrong with data, you still keep repeating the same stupid shyt all over again.

If the group of people here who talk about economics occasionally, like myself, Zerozero, Domingo, OGC163, Gallo, Ginathatain'tnodamnpuppy, Broke Wave, etc. disagree amongst each other vehemently on some things, but all agree that you're a fukking nincompoop, that should tell you something. The only thing people with diverging economic views all agree on here is that you know nothing. Think about that for a second.
 
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The dollar is doing fine. This is not something that is subjective or debatable. It's math.

I could go on. Do you even attempt to support anything you say with objective fact? Do you even believe in the concept of reality?

nobody said anything about the dollar having a good/bad exchange rate against other currencies :what:

the discussion was about gold and the dollar, and if you think the dollar is fine you're crazy. the US dollar is tied to the US economy, and last time i checked our national debt is spiraling out of control, our deficit is astronomical, unemployment and underemployment are sky high, poverty is climbing, economic inequality is climbing, manufacturing is dropping, and our public infrastructure is not significantly improving. we have a multitude of systemic problems which means we are emphatically UNstable. how are those for objective facts?

and i didnt even mention our biggest problem, which is the corporate greed and influence over public policy. the lobbying and exploitation of congress and the government are allowing the mechanisms of government to be controlled by private interests. our own government even released a report saying our current economic trajectory is unsustainable, and that was like in 2008.

if the current path is unsustainable, that means we are NOT okay...

or do you believe our current economic trajectory is sustainable?

The dollar is not on a downward trajectory, and I just proved it to you with math you imbecile. The dollar is the strongest currency in the world. That is a FACT. The dollar accounts for 90% of foreign trade.

again, just because it's a strong currency in relation to other currencies does not mean its on an upward trajectory.

the dollar is still doing good numbers in the global markets because it's been the biggest player the last 100 years. i would assume we are still the top economic force in the world at the moment, but our fall from grace will be gradual, not abrupt.

plus our history has shown numbers are not always reliable. statistics can be inflated and manipulated, especially by US financial markets and especially in times of a bubble. in fact that's become our speciality, create a bubble, transfer wealth upwards from the lower and middle class, let the bubble burst, rinse, repeat.

this current bubble will also eventually burst, and with all the unknowns in the US financial markets and corporate accounting records we have know idea where the bottom will be.

remember the financial crisis we "averted" by doing the bailout in 2008? yea, that same crisis is still here and still imminent. it just got nastier and uglier over the past 5 years because idiots like you supported bailing the corporate idiots out of trouble.


Regarding me not knowing anything about economics. Economics definitely isn't my forte, but I try to educate myself on it. I try to familiarize myself with various economic theories and concepts, and understand the different schools of thought on it. I'm reading Freefall by Joseph Stiglitz right now and I'm about 2/3 through. So if someone more learned in the field told me I didn't know shyt about economics, I couldn't even be mad. :ehh:

nobody cares bro :umad:

Except that that's not true and you completely made it up and going to yahoo or google finance on your computer right now and looking up currency exchange rates would prove what an idiot you are. But you probably don't even know how to do that.

again, the currency exchange rate is not the end all be all of economic indicators.

lol...except it isn't and you just made that up like you do everything.

breh, gold > dollar ... and it's not even close.

the dollar is about 200 years old while gold is THOUSANDS of years old as a means of exchange. in 300 years US dollars will probably be collectors items, and you know whats still going to be used as a valuable means of exchange?

gold breh. gold has been here since the beginning and it will be here until the end.

I don't say anything but facts and empirical data. You are simply an incurable idiot. You're stupid and there's nothing that anyone can do to help with your condition. Lord knows people here have tried, but at this point, everybody's lost patience and given up on you. You don't support anything you say with an data, and when people proven you wrong with data, you still keep repeating the same stupid shyt all over again.

If the group of people here who talk about economics occasionally, like myself, Zerozero, Domingo, OGC163, Gallo, Ginathatain'tnodamnpuppy, Broke Wave, etc. disagree amongst each other vehemently on some things, but all agree that you're a fukking nincompoop, that should tell you something. The only thing people with diverging economic views all agree on here is that you know nothing. Think about that for a second.

one, stop speaking for other people to make yourself feel better.

two, you've read a little economic theory but you don't have enough real world experience in this field. you don't know how to accurately value currencies. you don't know how to analyze the political economy of a nation. you don't even know how badly the loss of manufacturing has hurt the US economy, or how critical manufacturing is to our economic recovery, or even how Chinese companies producing apple products is a bad thing. in short, you don't know shyt breh so your opinion is worthless.
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nobody said anything about the dollar having a good/bad exchange rate against other currencies :what:

the discussion was about gold and the dollar, and if you think the dollar is fine you're crazy. the US dollar is tied to the US economy, and last time i checked our national debt is spiraling out of control, our deficit is astronomical, unemployment and underemployment are sky high, poverty is climbing, economic inequality is climbing, manufacturing is dropping, and our public infrastructure is not significantly improving. we have a multitude of systemic problems which means we are emphatically UNstable. how are those for objective facts?

and i didnt even mention our biggest problem, which is the corporate greed and influence over public policy. the lobbying and exploitation of congress and the government are allowing the mechanisms of government to be controlled by private interests. our own government even released a report saying our current economic trajectory is unsustainable, and that was like in 2008.

if the current path is unsustainable, that means we are NOT okay...

or do you believe our current economic trajectory is sustainable?



again, just because it's a strong currency in relation to other currencies does not mean its on an upward trajectory.

the dollar is still doing good numbers in the global markets because it's been the biggest player the last 100 years. i would assume we are still the top economic force in the world at the moment, but our fall from grace will be gradual, not abrupt.

plus our history has shown numbers are not always reliable. statistics can be inflated and manipulated, especially by US financial markets and especially in times of a bubble. in fact that's become our speciality, create a bubble, transfer wealth upwards from the lower and middle class, let the bubble burst, rinse, repeat.

this current bubble will also eventually burst, and with all the unknowns in the US financial markets and corporate accounting records we have know idea where the bottom will be.

remember the financial crisis we "averted" by doing the bailout in 2008? yea, that same crisis is still here and still imminent. it just got nastier and uglier over the past 5 years because idiots like you supported bailing the corporate idiots out of trouble.




nobody cares bro :umad:



again, the currency exchange rate is not the end all be all of economic indicators.



breh, gold > dollar ... and it's not even close.

the dollar is about 200 years old while gold is THOUSANDS of years old as a means of exchange. in 300 years US dollars will probably be collectors items, and you know whats still going to be used as a valuable means of exchange?

gold breh. gold has been here since the beginning and it will be here until the end.



one, stop speaking for other people to make yourself feel better.

two, you've read a little economic theory but you don't have enough real world experience in this field. you don't know how to accurately value currencies. you don't know how to analyze the political economy of a nation. you don't even know how badly the loss of manufacturing has hurt the US economy, or how critical manufacturing is to our economic recovery, or even how Chinese companies producing apple products is a bad thing. in short, you don't know shyt breh so your opinion is worthless.
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Lol...I'm actually impressed by your ability to say absolutely nothing in so many words.
 
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