Is the Book of Enoch a retelling of aliens giving humanity some game?

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Well according to anthropology, homo-sapiens (modern man) from Africa bred with Neanderthals and bred them out of existence. But if you're saying that they're wrong, do you. :hubie:

It took a period of thousands of year for out migration out of Africa. I don't think they were African at that point. Probably looked like Indians at that point.
 

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There's all sorts of myths around the world that people make up to explain their origins. I'm not sure why would would take this one more serious than any of the others.

For one thing, the dates would be really hard to believe.

1. Book of Enoch was written about 2100-2300 years ago.

2. Grain agriculture started in the Middle East over 11,500 years ago, in China over 8,000 years ago, in India 11,000 years ago, in New Guinea around 9,000 years ago, in the Sahel region over 5,000 years ago, in the Andes around 7,000-10,000 years ago, in Mexico around 6,000 years ago.

3. Animal domestication started in Middle East around 13,000 years ago, in India around 10,500 years ago, in South America 7,000-10,000 years ago.

4. Agriculture and animal domestication didn't arise all at once in each area, but different crops and animals were first grown/domesticated thousands of years apart from each other.


So supposedly this book was written to describe events that happened a full 10,000 years earlier? And if agriculture and animal domestication came from aliens, then why did it arise independently in at different times in different regions of the world and with some crops coming thousands of years before other crops?
 

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There’s a city called Ammon where Ethiopians and Egyptians lived together

I’ve seen some historians equate Nubia with Ancient Ethiopia. But the naming of Africa was weird because some called all of it Ethiopia or all of it Libya and some didn’t. You have to really trim the fat off of sources. For example it doesn’t make sense as far as I know for the modern region of Ethiopia to have been the birth place of the God Amon, but Nubia being that way makes more sense

Modern Ghana is also not the ancient Ghana empire. We really gotta respect context and use good judgment
Nubia...where Sudan is today
 

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However, I would be skeptical of this shyt because white people could use this as evidence of having higher intelligence than other races because whites were the ones to breed with Neanderthals as Neanderthals were only present in Eurasia when humans encountered them after they left Africa.
True, though I kinda doubt it’d be good grounds for their intelligence claim. It’s really nothing to brag about having 1-2% dna from those things. Most, if not all ,those genes would be recessive after thousands of generations of normal homosapien breeding. Think of how a black person’s skin/hair/other phenotypes completely disappears after only 4 generations of swirling with Europeans. Could you imagine how minute the genes from not 4, but literally thousands of generations ago would be? Not much of a brag.


This would also mean that any alleged gains of intelligence that cacs would claim would themselves be recessive and negligible .:yeshrug:




Africans never bred with Neanderthals so what you trying to say? :mjpls:

That’s another misconception. As a continent we aren’t out of the woods for the Neanderthal mixing. Several genetic populations left and returned to Africa during the era of Neanderthals. And they didn’t stay on the borderlines of North Africa either , but returned deep deep deep deep into the continent. The most notable of these are Khoisan’s of South Africa who walked clear from the Mediterranean to the southern tip of Africa. Do you really think Khoisan’s didn’t once mix with the numerous Nilotic and Bantu groups along the way?:jbhmm:


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@Mr swag , I personally don’t think it’s a big deal for Africans to have Neanderthal genes. As I mentioned to @Dorian Gray earlier, these percentages are so small that they might as well be irrelevant. In Asian, European, and especially African populations the admixture is no different than spilling a glass of milk in the Pacific Ocean. This whole Neanderthal/not-Neanderthal thing is a weird flex.:pachaha:
 
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That’s another misconception. As a continent we aren’t out of the woods for the Neanderthal mixing. Several genetic populations left and returned to Africa during the era of Neanderthals. And they didn’t stay on the borderlines of North Africa either , but returned deep deep deep deep into the continent. The most notable of these are Khoisan’s of South Africa who walked clear from the Mediterranean to the southern tip of Africa. Do you really think Khoisan’s didn’t once mix with the numerous Nilotic and Bantu groups along the way?:jbhmm:







Eh...I don't think this is saying the Khoi-San migrated out of Africa and then back in. Khoi-San are haplogroup A and essentially the oldest humans on the planet. And the origins of Khoi-San are in modern-day Botswana, not in Ethiopia. What this is saying is, the first migrants out of Africa, who crossed over from the Horn of Africa, and then who later returned (after so many thousands of years of genetic divergences), migrated south and then intermixed with the Khoi San. The Koi-San as a people never left central and south Africa. Whatever European DNA they have would have been introduced into their population, relatively recent, like within the past 2500 years. Similar to how some South African tribes share genetic affinities to the Jews. Those tribes did not migrate out of Africa but their Jewish genes were introduced into their local populations from a non-local group.

It's the same with the Neanderthal genes that were carried back into Africa via inward migration.
 

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Sounds like what breh was saying in the OP.

However, I would be skeptical of this shyt because white people could use this as evidence of having higher intelligence than other races because whites were the ones to breed with Neanderthals as Neanderthals were only present in Eurasia when humans encountered them after they left Africa.
Plus, Neanderthals got a bit of an image upgrade once cacs discovered they shared DNA with them.
 

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All the technology you see in the world came from them.
 

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Book of Enoch was always part of the Ethiopian Bible and I believe most other Coptic/Orthodox church literature as well
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similar to other books of the bible it should be read with allegory in mind first before considering literal interpretations
 

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There’s a city called Ammon where Ethiopians and Egyptians lived together

I’ve seen some historians equate Nubia with Ancient Ethiopia. But the naming of Africa was weird because some called all of it Ethiopia or all of it Libya and some didn’t. You have to really trim the fat off of sources. For example it doesn’t make sense as far as I know for the modern region of Ethiopia to have been the birth place of the God Amon, but Nubia being that way makes more sense

Modern Ghana is also not the ancient Ghana empire. We really gotta respect context and use good judgment
Min (god) - Wikipedia
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Head of the god Min-Amun wearing the double plume

they are linked for sure, but the name is Jmnw (pronounced Ya min), or "Spirit of Mnw" which can be broken down to "Spirit of the Established One"

Min can be taken to represent the power of male force similar to Dong Wang Gong :dame: (the personification of Yang in Taoism)
King Father of the East - Wikipedia

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