Is Organized Crime An Integral Part Of Any Ethnic Groups Prosperity

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Seems like no matter where you are, if organized crime is allowed to bubble, people flourish. Any city that has major drug kingpin players, has people who are doing well. Has their been a prosperous nation that has not used organized crime to come up and stay there. I dont think so.
 

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The legitimacy of organized crime as a group authorized to use force is actually a destabilization of the state. Whenever society sees that a group other than the state is allowed to use force or detain, whether it be the church, mafia, or militia, the state is destabilized and loses legitimacy.

Another problem with organized crime is it stimulates corruption of political institutions. Bribery and other corrupt matters are used to gain access to the pool of public funds directed at this community, so in this sense the community is damaged by organized crime (E.g. funds for infrastructural spending in the community is siphoned by the mafia which undercuts the contract, lining their own pockets)

Organized crime is endemic of cultures that are generally distrustful of authority due to recent historical events, such as the Sicilians and Hong Kong natives. The Sicilians, due to the consequences of their civil war, had a code of Omerta which they brought with them to the United States.

So in conclusion, Organized Crime is a symptom of the failure of governments to legitimize themselves in the effected communities.
 

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The legitimacy of organized crime as a group authorized to use force is actually a destabilization of the state. Whenever society sees that a group other than the state is allowed to use force or detain, whether it be the church, mafia, or militia, the state is destabilized and loses legitimacy.

Another problem with organized crime is it stimulates corruption of political institutions. Bribery and other corrupt matters are used to gain access to the pool of public funds directed at this community, so in this sense the community is damaged by organized crime (E.g. funds for infrastructural spending in the community is siphoned by the mafia which undercuts the contract, lining their own pockets)

Organized crime is endemic of cultures that are generally distrustful of authority due to recent historical events, such as the Sicilians and Hong Kong natives. The Sicilians, due to the consequences of their civil war, had a code of Omerta which they brought with them to the United States.

So in conclusion, Organized Crime is a symptom of the failure of governments to legitimize themselves in the effected communities.

 
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Seems like no matter where you are, if organized crime is allowed to bubble, people flourish. Any city that has major drug kingpin players, has people who are doing well. Has their been a prosperous nation that has not used organized crime to come up and stay there. I dont think so.

no

jews are on top but the Italians and Irish moved up a little bit.
 

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jews are on top but the Italians and Irish moved up a little bit.

Jewish-American organized crime (sometimes called the Jewish Mob, Jewish Mafia, Kosher Mafia, or the Kosher Nostra[1]—a pun on Cosa Nostra), emerged during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In the late 19th century in New York City, Monk Eastman operated a powerful Jewish gang that competed with Italian and Irish gangs, notably Paul Kelly's Five Points Gang, for control of New York's underworld.

In the early 1920s, stimulated by the economic opportunities of the Roaring Twenties and later, Prohibition, organized crime figures such as Arnold Rothstein were controlling a wide range of criminal enterprises. According to crime writer Leo Katcher, Rothstein "transformed organized crime from a thuggish activity by hoodlums into a big business, run like a corporation, with himself at the top."[2] Rothstein was allegedly responsible for fixing the 1919 World Series.[3]

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The legitimacy of organized crime as a group authorized to use force is actually a destabilization of the state. Whenever society sees that a group other than the state is allowed to use force or detain, whether it be the church, mafia, or militia, the state is destabilized and loses legitimacy.

Another problem with organized crime is it stimulates corruption of political institutions. Bribery and other corrupt matters are used to gain access to the pool of public funds directed at this community, so in this sense the community is damaged by organized crime (E.g. funds for infrastructural spending in the community is siphoned by the mafia which undercuts the contract, lining their own pockets)

Organized crime is endemic of cultures that are generally distrustful of authority due to recent historical events, such as the Sicilians and Hong Kong natives. The Sicilians, due to the consequences of their civil war, had a code of Omerta which they brought with them to the United States.

So in conclusion, Organized Crime is a symptom of the failure of governments to legitimize themselves in the effected communities.

But at the origins of a state is organized crime. If you're willing to trace the money back to where it started. Establishing rackets and monopolies. Before it was considered a crime, thats just how people lived. Once they made enough money they established laws to protect their interests as they were the providers for a large group of people. Within their nation, smaller groups banded together to start the cycle over again. Ultimately, these groups will upsurp the power structure if they are not popped before they get too big. :smugdraper::youngsabo:
 

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There were more ruthless and violent mafias, like the Russians and the Chinese, and more business oriented mafias like the Jews...

...but noone had the exact balance of both to reign for so long in a foreign, and well law enforced land such as America like the Italians.

La Cosa Nostra = GOAT crime family
 

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But at the origins of a state is organized crime. If you're willing to trace the money back to where it started. Establishing rackets and monopolies. Before it was considered a crime, thats just how people lived. Once they made enough money they established laws to protect their interests as they were the providers for a large group of people. Within their nation, smaller groups banded together to start the cycle over again. Ultimately, these groups will upsurp the power structure if they are not popped before they get too big. :smugdraper::youngsabo:

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The Founding Fathers we're an organized crime group before the revolution, where they became an armed milita. They executed all the services of the state and de-legitimized it to the point where they said fukk em.
 

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What a dumb ass thread.




What is politics breh? You ever feel kinda dumb and stupid when you listen to any politician talkin the same old talk about how its all about YOU, how he gonna make it better for YOU, how he needs YOU to vote so that HE can make it right?


You ever feel kinda dumb and stupid seeing those guys fly in private jets (taxpayer money), living in estates (taxpayer money), surrounded by top flight protocol and security (taxpayer money), spending millions on millions on propaganda for his own self (taxpayer money) and the most work you see him do is smile and shake hands after another long ass talk about YOU and all the plans he has to make YOU live a better life?


Organized crime never stopped to exist, bruh. These elections right now, that got all the blackies riled up for Obama and all the cacs riled up for yeee haw god bless hell yeah Romney? You think thats something else? You think thats politics?

One billion dollars to convince YOU GULLIBLE FOOLS just to "pick me, pick me, me, me!" ?


You gotta be out of your motherfukking mind.



Organized crimes runs the USA and the world. And if you feel like a regular smartypants trying to come up with that tired "well then tell me who would build the roads, who would keep us safe, are you saying we dont need government?" retard rhetoric...let me remind you on one little detail about the organized crime.


The Government as they elegantly call themselves (nice suits, big marketing, clean production, fancy lingo) is 100% entitled to;

- take 50% of the money YOU earned (you traded your time that you never get back for $)
- use your money to bailout private corporation - without your direct consent
- create more debt and spend it on dubious things (like, hm, what could it be, military-industrial complex?)
- racquet you with laws, regulations and basically make you submit and conform to their demands and conditions because why? because you voted for them.


Crime syndicates are at least on the same moral level as the government. Only a retarded moron would argue against that.
 
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