Is Nikola Jokic a top 20 player of all time right now?

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Statistically Embiid has a better career.... so Embiid top 20 too?
Embiid has better career averages, but Jokic has more accolades and better total numbers due to Embiid missing so many games.
Big O, Dr. J Moses (since 3 MVP's automatically place you in he top 20)
I have KG in my top 20 as well, and he has one ring.
 

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Embiid has better career averages, but Jokic has more accolades and better total numbers due to Embiid missing so many games.

I have KG in my top 20 as well, and he has one ring.
Embiid got better head to head numbers
MVPs and FMVP are stats too
triple doubles, that's a stat
Embiid 6-2 against Jokic averaging 28 &11
 

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Embiid got better head to head numbers

Embiid 6-2 against Jokic averaging 28 &11
Unfortunately, they don’t look at regular season head to head matchups. They will look at your MVPs, All Star berths, All NBA selections, and of course your individual stats
 

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Unfortunately, they don’t look at regular season head to head matchups. They will look at your MVPs, All Star berths, All NBA selections, and of course your individual stats
They got the same amount of all-star , jokic got 1 more all-nba, but Embbid got 3 more all defense. Embiid is better r at least on par. so if Jokic is top 20 so is embbid
 

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They got the same amount of all-star , jokic got 1 more all-nba, but Embbid got 3 more all defense. Embiid is better r at least on par. so if Jokic is top 20 so is embbid
Jokic has a Finals MVP and his total numbers are much higher as far as points, rebounds, assists, etc
 

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don't matter, give jokic top 5 talent year after year, and he would have multiple rings too.

That’s whats special about the top 10. Ain’t no ‘what ifs’ and hypotheticals. They all got hardware. All the hardware. Rings, MVP, finals mvps. Multiple. No ‘if’ resume is pushing any of them out.

Hakeem has TWO rings and he’s fringe top 10 if that.
 
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