I personally love the movie. Everytime it comes on I watch it. It's shot beautifully and the whole world that is created on screen is encapsulating. I always find myself yelling Wiiiitnesssss for the hell of it sometimes.
Is Mad Max: Fury Road Overrated...Or Nah?
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I'm not a fanboy. I went, saw the film, and was blown the fukk away. It wasn't just visuals. The world building, the unique characters, the music/soundtrack, the action choreography were some of the most insane things I've ever seen.Fanboys always doing too much tofor shyt. Yes, the visuals were grade A, after that the movie is ehh at best. Only a moron would blindly go with the flow without coming to their own conclusion
Thing is, you call the movie overrated then offer NO explanation of why you think that. And I wouldn't be surprised a woman doesn't like one of the most hardcore full throttle action flicks in the past decadeRight, because I think this movie is overrated i have shyt taste...ewww female opinions...as I said, head back to the kids table bruh
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
The only movies i go see at the theater are action, adventure, comic shyt, they're the only movies worth seeing on the big screen. Stop living in a world of stereotypes where women only watch romcom's and dramas
And I've offered my views on the movie earlier in this thread and the main MM thread
welp i'm sure as fukk not going to waste my time looking through previous threads for your one asinine post about how this movie is "ehh" your views should be concise enough to type in a few sentences.The only movies i go see at the theater are action, adventure, comic shyt, they're the only movies worth seeing on the big screen. Stop living in a world of stereotypes where women only watch romcom's and dramas
And I've offered my views on the movie earlier in this thread and the main MM thread
very overrated...
doesn't mean it was a bad movie...just not what i expected based on the hype i kept hearing about it.
doesn't mean it was a bad movie...just not what i expected based on the hype i kept hearing about it.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Then don't come at me as if I haven't explained my view, you sure as hell don't warrant me explaining again.
The movie is aight at best, get out your feelings because everyone doesn't love it.
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Veteran
I liked the movie but don't think it's a classic and was legit surprised to see it get a Best Picture nod
I saw it twice
The second time was last week sometime
shyt dope as hell imo
It aint got the GREATEST plot or anything but its fun as hell
And its looks amazing!
The second time was last week sometime
shyt dope as hell imo
It aint got the GREATEST plot or anything but its fun as hell
And its looks amazing!
Overrated as hell to me. Looked great, but that's about it.
I wasn't expecting much out of the story, but that shyt was trash. For it to be a Mad Max movie, I felt Tom Hardy was underused. Wasn't a fan of the Furiosa character at all; it felt like some "female empowerment" bullshyt (again, just my opinion)
The fact that this movie received a 'Best Picture' nod was befuddling. Other than the cinematography and some of the action, nothing was really all that noteworthy about it. I liked the dude with the flaming guitar LOL
It was a mindless summer flick that I watched to waste a couple of hours; it's not on my re-watch list, though.
I wasn't expecting much out of the story, but that shyt was trash. For it to be a Mad Max movie, I felt Tom Hardy was underused. Wasn't a fan of the Furiosa character at all; it felt like some "female empowerment" bullshyt (again, just my opinion
)The fact that this movie received a 'Best Picture' nod was befuddling. Other than the cinematography and some of the action, nothing was really all that noteworthy about it. I liked the dude with the flaming guitar LOL
It was a mindless summer flick that I watched to waste a couple of hours; it's not on my re-watch list, though.
Overrated as hell to me. Looked great, but that's about it.
I wasn't expecting much out of the story, but that shyt was trash. For it to be a Mad Max movie, I felt Tom Hardy was underused. Wasn't a fan of the Furiosa character at all; it felt like some "female empowerment" bullshyt (again, just my opinion
The fact that this movie received a 'Best Picture' nod was befuddling. Other than the cinematography and some of the action, nothing was really all that noteworthy about it. I liked the dude with the flaming guitar LOL
It was a mindless summer flick that I watched to waste a couple of hours; it's not on my re-watch list, though.
For starters it wasn't a mere "female empowerment" film, if you really paid attention EVERYONE was being under some form of slavery or oppression. Also it is a social commentary about our sociopolitical climate that we are in. The movie is A LOT DEEPER than what you see on the surface. Even the final words at the end have important meaning towards the overall allegory of the movie. This is why it was nominated for Best Picture... not because it was just a neat action flick, but the layers upon layers it has visually addressing some kind of importance or symbolism.
WE ARE NOT THINGS: Men reduced to "war fodder," women reduced to "breeders"
And our hero Max reduced to a blood bag with his "nutritional label" tattooed to his back...
Immortan Joe has created a society where everyone is reduced to a
"thing," their value determined by what they contribute to his society. You see women hooked up to milk pumps and women selected for their genes to produce heirs for Immortan Joe. You see young men indoctrinated into a religion that tells them dying for their master is glorious.
...but you also see a woman like Imperator Furiosa commanding Immortan Joe's strongest war machine with her own crew of War Boys to boss around, so we know that Immortan Joe doesn't strictly discriminate by gender, he gave Furiosa a rank in his military because she was more valued as war fodder than as a breeder.
WHO KILLED OUR WORLD?: War is the machine fueled by human sacrifice
Uniformed soldiers taught to die for their masters
There's already been much written on the internet about the feminism of Fury Road, but this film is as much about the oppression and dehumanization men go through as much as women, it's about oppression of humans as a whole by society as a whole. But let me talk about the War Boys for a bit.
The war boys are the loyal war fodder of Immortan Joe, raised from a young age (called war pups when they're not of fighting age) to believe that the most glorious thing they can do is die for their master. They are fed a religion that tells them death in Immortan Joe's service leads to eternal life. This is the kind of propaganda that has sent men to die in wars since the beginning of human history, Immortan Joe's human-consuming society is George Miller's exaggeration of what exists in our world.
Fury Road's production was actually delayed back in 2003 when producers were worried it would be perceived as "anti-war" while PotUS Bush Jr. was sending Americans overseas to fight in Iraq!
Uniformed soldiers taught to die for their masters
You see this emphasized in the little details, like when the Gas Town "People Eater" (a fittingly symbolic name for his role in the film) counts off all of the materials that have been consumed in Immortan Joe's hunt for his escapee wives. Fuel and vehicles are listed, but never the human lives as the deaths of War Boys does not even register as something separate from the vehicles they crew.
Concept art of the Gas Town 'People Eater' and others
Men & women cannot live apart from one another
The Many Mothers society is dying out at the time of Fury Road
George Miller presents the Many Mothers as badass amazonian warrior women but something very apparent about them is their society is dying out. The most youthful among them, Valkyrie, uses her sexuality to lure unsuspecting travelers into the desert to kill and loot. As Furiosa recalls seeing nude women in towers in her youth in the "green place," it implies that the Many Mothers were using such lures to ambush travelers even when they had a thriving farming community. One of the Many Mothers even brags that she kills everyone she meets in the desert. Upon hearing that the escapee wife "The Dag" comments that she was taught women are suppose to be above that.
The Many Mothers refer to the escapee wives as "creatures" and inspect their teeth like livestock. George Miller cleverly subverts the "peaceful gentle woman run society" trope by presenting them as every bit the killers as any of the menfolk in Fury Road are.
Just as the Many Mothers take on quite a traditionally masculine role, Max is important as a life giver, a traditionally feminine role. His blood nurtures the dying Nux at the beginning of the film and sets the War Boy on the path of redemption, and revives the dying Furiosa at the end. The fluidity of "masculine" and "feminine" roles is a big theme in George Miller's previous Mad Max films too.
Road Warrior had the "Golden Youth" to show males in "feminine" roles
Immortan Joe lives on top of a machine where none are his equal, while the Many Mothers have fled from the rest of society to live as bandits, both of their societies are deeply flawed. But the events of Fury Road shows that social change only happens when men and women come together.
Starting with the titular Max, at first he is hostile to Furiosa and the Wives, even shooting at the pregnant Splendid. It's only when they make peace that both of them can continue on their journey.
Furiosa's goal was to run away from Immortan Joe's society to the "green place." When she finds out the place of her birth is gone she clings on to the insane hope that driving across the dried up ocean will lead to "somewhere else." It's only when Max tells her the futility of hope, that it is better to repair what is broken than run away from it, that real hope for the future begins to take root.
In helping Furiosa and the Wives Max also comes to terms with the ghosts of his own past. In the end they were not so much "haunting" him as making him realize his destiny, the final phantom to appear in Max's eyes even prevents Max from getting fatally shot in the head. In helping Furiosa repair what was broken in her life, Max repairs what is broken in his.
Then you have the War Boy Nux. He's been taught all his life that as a proud masculine warrior there is no greater honor than to die for his patriarch Immortan Joe. Interestingly the word "Nux" also means "worthless" in Proto-Indo-European language. Imperator Furiosa's reaction to Nux is to try to kill him on sight as she has lived most of her life as a soldier too, but it's the motherly figure of Splendid that stops them. It's the motherly figure of Splendid that tells Nux for the first time in his life that he is not a thing, he is not war fodder.
Nux is given another chance at life when he's found wimpering by the red-head Capable. She does not threaten Nux or order Nux around, she simply assures Nux that his"manifest destiny" is not to live and die under someone else's orders, but to live his own life.
And our hero Max reduced to a blood bag with his "nutritional label" tattooed to his back...
Immortan Joe has created a society where everyone is reduced to a
"thing," their value determined by what they contribute to his society. You see women hooked up to milk pumps and women selected for their genes to produce heirs for Immortan Joe. You see young men indoctrinated into a religion that tells them dying for their master is glorious.
...but you also see a woman like Imperator Furiosa commanding Immortan Joe's strongest war machine with her own crew of War Boys to boss around, so we know that Immortan Joe doesn't strictly discriminate by gender, he gave Furiosa a rank in his military because she was more valued as war fodder than as a breeder.
WHO KILLED OUR WORLD?: War is the machine fueled by human sacrifice
Uniformed soldiers taught to die for their masters
There's already been much written on the internet about the feminism of Fury Road, but this film is as much about the oppression and dehumanization men go through as much as women, it's about oppression of humans as a whole by society as a whole. But let me talk about the War Boys for a bit.
The war boys are the loyal war fodder of Immortan Joe, raised from a young age (called war pups when they're not of fighting age) to believe that the most glorious thing they can do is die for their master. They are fed a religion that tells them death in Immortan Joe's service leads to eternal life. This is the kind of propaganda that has sent men to die in wars since the beginning of human history, Immortan Joe's human-consuming society is George Miller's exaggeration of what exists in our world.
Fury Road's production was actually delayed back in 2003 when producers were worried it would be perceived as "anti-war" while PotUS Bush Jr. was sending Americans overseas to fight in Iraq!
Uniformed soldiers taught to die for their masters
You see this emphasized in the little details, like when the Gas Town "People Eater" (a fittingly symbolic name for his role in the film) counts off all of the materials that have been consumed in Immortan Joe's hunt for his escapee wives. Fuel and vehicles are listed, but never the human lives as the deaths of War Boys does not even register as something separate from the vehicles they crew.
Concept art of the Gas Town 'People Eater' and others
Men & women cannot live apart from one another
The Many Mothers society is dying out at the time of Fury Road
George Miller presents the Many Mothers as badass amazonian warrior women but something very apparent about them is their society is dying out. The most youthful among them, Valkyrie, uses her sexuality to lure unsuspecting travelers into the desert to kill and loot. As Furiosa recalls seeing nude women in towers in her youth in the "green place," it implies that the Many Mothers were using such lures to ambush travelers even when they had a thriving farming community. One of the Many Mothers even brags that she kills everyone she meets in the desert. Upon hearing that the escapee wife "The Dag" comments that she was taught women are suppose to be above that.
The Many Mothers refer to the escapee wives as "creatures" and inspect their teeth like livestock. George Miller cleverly subverts the "peaceful gentle woman run society" trope by presenting them as every bit the killers as any of the menfolk in Fury Road are.
Just as the Many Mothers take on quite a traditionally masculine role, Max is important as a life giver, a traditionally feminine role. His blood nurtures the dying Nux at the beginning of the film and sets the War Boy on the path of redemption, and revives the dying Furiosa at the end. The fluidity of "masculine" and "feminine" roles is a big theme in George Miller's previous Mad Max films too.
Road Warrior had the "Golden Youth" to show males in "feminine" roles
Immortan Joe lives on top of a machine where none are his equal, while the Many Mothers have fled from the rest of society to live as bandits, both of their societies are deeply flawed. But the events of Fury Road shows that social change only happens when men and women come together.
Starting with the titular Max, at first he is hostile to Furiosa and the Wives, even shooting at the pregnant Splendid. It's only when they make peace that both of them can continue on their journey.
Furiosa's goal was to run away from Immortan Joe's society to the "green place." When she finds out the place of her birth is gone she clings on to the insane hope that driving across the dried up ocean will lead to "somewhere else." It's only when Max tells her the futility of hope, that it is better to repair what is broken than run away from it, that real hope for the future begins to take root.
In helping Furiosa and the Wives Max also comes to terms with the ghosts of his own past. In the end they were not so much "haunting" him as making him realize his destiny, the final phantom to appear in Max's eyes even prevents Max from getting fatally shot in the head. In helping Furiosa repair what was broken in her life, Max repairs what is broken in his.
Then you have the War Boy Nux. He's been taught all his life that as a proud masculine warrior there is no greater honor than to die for his patriarch Immortan Joe. Interestingly the word "Nux" also means "worthless" in Proto-Indo-European language. Imperator Furiosa's reaction to Nux is to try to kill him on sight as she has lived most of her life as a soldier too, but it's the motherly figure of Splendid that stops them. It's the motherly figure of Splendid that tells Nux for the first time in his life that he is not a thing, he is not war fodder.
Nux is given another chance at life when he's found wimpering by the red-head Capable. She does not threaten Nux or order Nux around, she simply assures Nux that his"manifest destiny" is not to live and die under someone else's orders, but to live his own life.
"I will be historic on the FURY ROAD!" passing on history to future generations
The War Boy paint fades as Nux regains his humanity
Though the film is titled Mad Max, the phrase "Fury Road" comes from the War Boy Nux. As a War Boy he knows he is at the end of his shortened lifespan but Nux still wants to accomplish something that will be remembered after his passing. Though Max and Furiosa are usually seen as the protagonists of this film, I found Nux to go through the greatest transformation, a hero's journey to realize his "manifest destiny."
When it comes time, Nux points to the people that changed his very short yet meaningful life for the better, and utters his final line:
"Witness me!"
The Fury Road is Nux's journey from ignorance to enlightenment, from being a cog in the machine to being someone that changes society, a tale of how men and women from all walks of life came together to change society for the better. The film then ends with a quotation from a history book ("The First History Man") as if the events of the film had long passed:
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves
"Road Warrior" has a similar ending where the narrator talks of the film's events as historic events, of how the legendary Road Warrior brought peace to their land.
The War Boy paint fades as Nux regains his humanity
Though the film is titled Mad Max, the phrase "Fury Road" comes from the War Boy Nux. As a War Boy he knows he is at the end of his shortened lifespan but Nux still wants to accomplish something that will be remembered after his passing. Though Max and Furiosa are usually seen as the protagonists of this film, I found Nux to go through the greatest transformation, a hero's journey to realize his "manifest destiny."
When it comes time, Nux points to the people that changed his very short yet meaningful life for the better, and utters his final line:
"Witness me!"
The Fury Road is Nux's journey from ignorance to enlightenment, from being a cog in the machine to being someone that changes society, a tale of how men and women from all walks of life came together to change society for the better. The film then ends with a quotation from a history book ("The First History Man") as if the events of the film had long passed:
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves
"Road Warrior" has a similar ending where the narrator talks of the film's events as historic events, of how the legendary Road Warrior brought peace to their land.
1. Scarcity makes it near-impossible to find our humanity, but our humanity is most luminous when it is hard come by.
When you're living in the lowest tier of Maslow's hierarchy, scrabbling for survival, the search for self-actualization seems like a faint irrelevant fool's errand. When you're face-down in the dirt of that lowest tier, eating bugs and begging for water, even human relationships can seem expendable. But that's when humanity can shine the most and make the most difference, because it's credibly hard-fought for.
2. Humanity begins at the edge of how we see ourselves - its wellspring is our sense of individual self and its sharing.
You see this most clearly in Nux, as he transitions from a one-among-many to a distinctive individual with choice. By the end, his facepaint has worn off and you can see his true face. With Max, the giving of his name to Furiosa at the end marks a willingness to share his self, to be connected in some small way. You see that he has resolved at least some of his demons (though the man has a deep backlog).
3. Power seems to reside in a small few but in reality every person has the ability to exercise their will, even the weakest.
At the start of the movie, the force being wielded against the group of refugees and directed by Immortan Joe seems overwhelming. He seems virtually a god at the onset and it seems like escape is the most that Furiosa can hope for (and even that is a wish-upon-a-star). But over the course of the narrative, you see individuals act against pattern, and even against their own intuition, time and time again - first Furiosa in initiating the escape, then the wives in taking personal risks to keep the group going and in defense of the others, then Max in returning with the insane plan to go to the Citadel, and finally Nux in his joining forces with them and ultimate self-sacrifice. It is, at the end, a triumph of human will.
When you're living in the lowest tier of Maslow's hierarchy, scrabbling for survival, the search for self-actualization seems like a faint irrelevant fool's errand. When you're face-down in the dirt of that lowest tier, eating bugs and begging for water, even human relationships can seem expendable. But that's when humanity can shine the most and make the most difference, because it's credibly hard-fought for.
2. Humanity begins at the edge of how we see ourselves - its wellspring is our sense of individual self and its sharing.
You see this most clearly in Nux, as he transitions from a one-among-many to a distinctive individual with choice. By the end, his facepaint has worn off and you can see his true face. With Max, the giving of his name to Furiosa at the end marks a willingness to share his self, to be connected in some small way. You see that he has resolved at least some of his demons (though the man has a deep backlog).
3. Power seems to reside in a small few but in reality every person has the ability to exercise their will, even the weakest.
At the start of the movie, the force being wielded against the group of refugees and directed by Immortan Joe seems overwhelming. He seems virtually a god at the onset and it seems like escape is the most that Furiosa can hope for (and even that is a wish-upon-a-star). But over the course of the narrative, you see individuals act against pattern, and even against their own intuition, time and time again - first Furiosa in initiating the escape, then the wives in taking personal risks to keep the group going and in defense of the others, then Max in returning with the insane plan to go to the Citadel, and finally Nux in his joining forces with them and ultimate self-sacrifice. It is, at the end, a triumph of human will.