Is LeBron The Most Powerful Player In NBA History From An Organizational Standpoint?

[PortCityProphet]

It's one mic. He said publicly he wanted Jax there. That's not the same as going in Myers' office and telling him what to do or else. Nice try tho, good effort.

Read your post again. In one you said he doesn't have any power then in another you say he does he just doesn't use it. Then you say he publicly wanted jackson to stay. You don't think that means just as much as going in an office? Hell that means more cause it's in the open not behind closed doors. Yet they throw Steph thoughts, feelings, and opinions in the bushes.
So how much power does he have?

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Read your post again. In one you said he doesn't have any power then in another you say he does he just doesn't use it. Then you say he publicly wanted jackson to stay. You don't think that means just as much as going in an office? Hell that means more cause it's in the open not behind closed doors. Yet they throw Steph thoughts, feelings, and opinions in the bushes.
So how much power does he have?

He didn't have enough power then, today if the situation was the same he would have much more power but he wouldn't use it. I'd say he has as much power as any player in the league right now. He could get Dell an assistant GM job if he wanted to be an a$$hole but he doesn't exert it which you have to respect. He could have any player on the roster traded if he wanted to.

My point is him not using it should be applauded. He's not trying to do Bob Myers' job.

 

[ghostwriterx]

At the time he didn't have as much power as he has now, especially now that his contract is coming up. I still don't think that he'd exert it tho. He'd give his opinion but he'd let them decide either way. He wouldn't threaten to leave or sign 1 year deals to hold them to the fire like LeBron is doing. And he damn sure wouldn't tell them who to trade and crazy shyt like that which LeBron did with Love and Wiggins.

Don't disagree, but comparing players like this is silly considering how different their situations are. Steph is in the perfect situation for his skillset, with a coach he respects and teammates he loves. Hard to say what he would do if he was in a KD in OKC situation. Bottom line everybody does it differently and is dealing with different sh*t.

 

[ghostwriterx]

He didn't have enough power then, today if the situation was the same he would have much more power but he wouldn't use it. I'd say he has as much power as any player in the league right now. He could get Dell an assistant GM job if he wanted to be an a$$hole but he doesn't exert it which you have to respect. He could have any player on the roster traded if he wanted to.

My point is him not using it should be applauded. He's not trying to do Bob Myers' job.

LOL stop man, this aint college.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Don't disagree, but comparing players like this is silly considering how different their situations are. Steph is in the perfect situation for his skillset, with a coach he respects and teammates he loves. Hard to say what he would do if he was in a KD in OKC situation. Bottom line everybody does it differently and is dealing with different sh*t.

I disagree, I don't think Steph would disrespect any coach like LeBron has done on multiple occasions. We've seen LeBron in the perfect situation and disrespect Spoelstra by pushing him to the side. Its the individual, not the situation.

 

[ghostwriterx]

I disagree, I don't think Steph would disrespect any coach like LeBron has done on multiple occasions. We've seen LeBron in the perfect situation and disrespect Spoelstra by pushing him to the side. Its the individual, not the situation.

Agreed, I'm just talking about from an organizational power aspect. Spending a good portion of your prime with Mo Williams as your best teammate can lead to some... frustration.

As an aside, I wouldn't say Miami was a "perfect" situation. Can't be perfect with Spo as your coach.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Agreed, I'm just talking about from an organizational power aspect. Spending a good portion of your prime with Mo Williams as your best teammate can lead to some... frustration.

As an aside, I wouldn't say Miami was a "perfect" situation. Can't be perfect with Spo as your coach.

Steph had waaay more bad years than LeBron did. And worse teammates. Kerr didn't come in with any kind of coaching credentials and everyone bought in. Blatt was a respected coach among his peers and LeBron treated the man like shyt.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Steph had waaay more bad years than LeBron did. And worse teammates. Kerr didn't come in with any kind of coaching credentials and everyone bought in. Blatt was a respected coach among his peers and LeBron treated the man like shyt.

Steph wasn't the best player in the world during his bad years. He was an injury prone novelty playing on a bad team with no expectations. Blatt being respected among his peers has nothing to do with players. No question Kerr would have more respect going into any locker room than Blatt even before he coached a game. Mind you I'm just pointing out that coaching is way underrated. Warriors have pretty much the same squad MJax did and are a completely different team.

 

[DonKnock]

It's clearly not Steph since the Warriors owner basically said he's just a cog in his brilliant "light years ahead" architecture

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

It's clearly not Steph since the Warriors owner basically said he's just a cog in his brilliant "light years ahead" architecture

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Steph wasn't the best player in the world during his bad years. He was an injury prone novelty playing on a bad team with no expectations. Blatt being respected among his peers has nothing to do with players. No question Kerr would have more respect going into any locker room than Blatt even before he coached a game. Mind you I'm just pointing out that coaching is way underrated. Warriors have pretty much the same squad MJax did and are a completely different team.

Why is that? Blatt was the man overseas. All the NBA coaches respected him to my knowledge. At the very least they admired what he was able to do over there.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Why is that? Blatt was the man overseas. All the NBA coaches respected him to my knowledge. At the very least they admired what he was able to do over there.

You think any players in the league have watched an Euro League game and/or know anything about the coaches?
Fred Hoiberg and Brad Stevens probably had more respect coming in.

Meanwhile Kerr played with MJ/Duncan and under Pop and Phil, was a gm for and commentator for years etc.

Cavs should've held off hiring a coach until they properly vetted the possibility of Bron coming back. Throwing a coach who has zero experience with the NBA into a situation where he as to coach a personality like Bron with championship or bust expectations was borderline criminal.

Reportedly Kerr was close to signing with the Knicks, would've been an interesting decision for him if Gilbert came calling with the promise of Lebron.

 

[PortCityProphet]

He didn't have enough power then, today if the situation was the same he would have much more power but he wouldn't use it. I'd say he has as much power as any player in the league right now. He could get Dell an assistant GM job if he wanted to be an a$$hole but he doesn't exert it which you have to respect. He could have any player on the roster traded if he wanted to.

My point is him not using it should be applauded. He's not trying to do Bob Myers' job.

John Wall got the same power.
Durant got the same power.
Karl Anthony bout to have the same power.
Any franchise player has the same power.
Only difference is Cleveland has no backbone and Gilbert allows the shyt to happen. Let's applaud every franchise player in the NBA.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

John Wall got the same power.
Durant got the same power.
Karl Anthony bout to have the same power.
Any franchise player has the same power.
Only difference is Cleveland has no backbone and Gilbert allows the shyt to happen. Let's applaud every franchise player in the NBA.

I disagree, KD does but Wall damn sure doesn't. And you saying Karl Anthony has it is like saying Cousins has it.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

LOL stop man, this aint college.

i mean he's right tho... but it's not some marvel.. EVERY #1 player has the same power as lebron


now realize i said #1 player.. as in, "my god, we would be a lottery team without him" type of player


all ANY of these dudes have to do, is walk down to the owner's office and say "look, if you don't do _________ , i'm not resigning and i'll sign with __________ and you'll have to play against me every year"

ain't too many teams losing their #1 player for their #2 and down. and unless it's pop, most teams would say fukk their coach too


now if you old... ain't that good no more... or not the undisputed best on your team, then nah, you can't do that. but this is basketball.. there's only 5 starters and maybe 15 legit megastars in the entire game... players have way more power








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but also, you gotta figure, most dudes aren't dikkheads like bron. to do this, you gotta be willing to throw your teammates under the bus, throw your coach under the bus, abandon your team, make plans to leave your team, and act an ass towards the people you want gone UNTIL the owner/gm is now forced to make the trade



who has the power to go in an calmly ask, with no threats behind it? now that is the question