IS LEBRON JAMES A TOP 10 PLAYER?

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Bird (Similar level of player but LeBron will have absolutely destroyed him longevity-wise, also more MVPs, finals MVPs, All-NBA, All-Defense)
Kobe (This one is barely worth mentioning. LeBron has more MVPs, Finals MVPs, not in the same league as LeBron as a player. LeBron's career FG% >>>> Kobe's best season from the field)
Olajuwon (LeBron more MVPs, All-NBA First teams and will have more overall, more rings, Olajuwon's '87-'93 period of languishing on mostly 40-odd win teams and getting bounced in the first round)
Wilt (LeBron, more championships, more Finals MVPs, same amount of MVPs in a far more competitive era, more All-NBA, All-Defense, inflated era stats)

And he has a very strong argument against Duncan, Shaq, Russell and Magic but I can't be bothered writing any more as it's absolutely ludicrous that someone would argue he's not top 10.


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Brilliant and well written article. While I believe that Lebron is top 10 I have him #10 on my listhe is CLEARLY in no way shape or form a better player than Kobe as evidenced by these statements from his peers:


DIRK NOWITZKI - Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

DWYANE WADE - Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant 'is the greatest player of our era'

KEVIN DURANT - Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'

MICHAEL JORDAN - Michael Jordan Would Pick Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James | SLAMonline

KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar takes sides in Kobe vs LeBron debate

PAUL PIERCE - Paul Pierce Puts Kobe Ahead of Lebron

CHARLES BARKLEY -http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/...bron-james-higher-than-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan

SHAQUILLE O'NEAL - Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron

STEPHEN JACKSON - Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED | FOX Sports

CHRIS WEBBER - Is Chris Webber Team Kobe or Team LeBron?

DENNIS RODMAN - Dennis Rodman On Judge Pirro Says Kobe Is Better Than Lebron

JARED DUDLEY- Jared Dudley Says Kobe Bryant Was More Difficult To Guard Than LeBron James Or Kevin Durant

TRACY MCGRADY - McGrady: 'No doubt' Kobe best player I've faced, including MJ - ESPN Video

SCOTTIE PIPPEN- Scottie Pippen Says LeBron James Hasn't Passed Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan

DERRICK ROSE - Derrick Rose: Kobe is the Jordan of our generation

RICK BARRY - Rick Barry: Kobe is better than Lebron

STEPHON MARBURY - VIDEO: Stephon Marbury Believes Kobe, Not LeBron, Is NBA's Best - Lakers Nation

ALLEN IVERSON - Allen Iverson Names Top 5 Players of his Era, Talks Kobe vs LeBron

HAKEEM OLAJUWON - Hakeem Olajuwon says Kobe Bryant was his greatest success as a coach over Lebron

JULIUS ERVING - Julius Erving Picks Spurs Over Heat In Finals, Says He'd Take Kobe Over LeBron

REGGIE MILLER - Reggie Miller picks Kobe over LeBron | The Dan Patrick Show | FOX Sports Radio

GILBERT ARENAS -http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/...ames-will-never-be-michael-jordan-kobe-bryant

KYRIE IRVING - Kyrie Irving "I’d Put Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant Above Lebron"

RON ARTEST - Metta World Peace ranks Kobe best player in NBA history

TREVOR ARIZA - Trevor Ariza: Kobe Better Than LeBron and Duncan

LARRY BIRD - Larry Bird would like to team with Kobe for the win, LeBron for the fun

MARK JACKSON - Mark Jackson : "When Kobe retires, he will be greatest of all time"

TAYSHAUN PRINCE- Tayshaun Prince explains the differences between guarding Kobe and LeBron

DOMINIQUE WILKINS - Dominique Wilkins: "Kobe Bryant in his prime better all around player than Lebron"

GLEN RICE -http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/g...o-ever-come-to-michael-jordan-is-kobe-bryant/

JASON TERRY - Jason Terry Says Kobe > LeBron

GARY PAYTON - Gary Payton says Kobe Bryant is still the best player alive

DAVID WESLEY - David Wesley: 'LeBron Doesn't Have Killer Instinct Like Jordan Or Kobe'

KENNY SMITH - Kenny the Jet from TNT ranks Kobe above Lebron & more!

GREG ANTHONY - Greg Anthony: Kobe Better Than Michael!!

NICK YOUNG - Nick Young Says Kobe Bryant Is Better Than Michael Jordan - Ball Don't Stop

BRANDON JENNINGS - Brandon Jennings Calls Kobe Bryant 'The Greatest Ever,' Says MJ Had Better Cast
 

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Yeah, but he's lost 5 finals, and got beat 3x in the finals at his own position. Odds are Durant will be deemed the best player post Kobe once it's all said and done. He plays in the East, and picks his teams. He only saw 1 finals before teaming up with Wade, you put Lebron out West I'm not sure he would have ever made the finals in his career :wow:

Nah, you can't be taken seriously as a basketball fan if you don't have him at least top 10, and most knowledgeable will have him top 5.

Was undisputed best player from '09-'14, and has been in the argument from '07 until now. Has been historically good from day one, is tied for the most All-NBA First Teams and he hasn't fallen off yet. Will end up with the most All-NBA teams nods ever.

#1 all-time in playoff points and FTs, will be #1 in steals, top 3 in assists, top 10 rebounds. 3 rings, 3 Finals MVPs, including maybe the GOAT performance against a 73-win team.

10 better players :mjlol:

Replace Bron on the '07 Cavs and who else would've seen the Finals? :mjgrin:

Where do you rank Bron?
 

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Nah, you can't be taken seriously as a basketball fan if you don't have him at least top 10, and most knowledgeable will have him top 5.

Was undisputed best player from '09-'14, and has been in the argument from '07 until now. Has been historically good from day one, is tied for the most All-NBA First Teams and he hasn't fallen off yet. Will end up with the most All-NBA teams nods ever.

#1 all-time in playoff points and FTs, will be #1 in steals, top 3 in assists, top 10 rebounds. 3 rings, 3 Finals MVPs, including maybe the GOAT performance against a 73-win team.

10 better players :mjlol:

Replace Bron on the '07 Cavs and who else would've seen the Finals? :mjgrin:

Where do you rank Bron?


LEBRON WAS UNDISPUTEDLY BETTER IN 09 AND 10 WHEN KOBE WAS GOIN BACK TO BACK WHILE LEBRON WAS GETTIN BEAT BY THE TEAMS KOBE ELIMINATED? LMAO


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Brilliant and well written article. While I believe that Lebron is top 10 I have him #10 on my listhe is CLEARLY in no way shape or form a better player than Kobe as evidenced by these statements from his peers:


DIRK NOWITZKI - Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

DWYANE WADE - Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant 'is the greatest player of our era'

KEVIN DURANT - Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'

MICHAEL JORDAN - Michael Jordan Would Pick Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James | SLAMonline

KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar takes sides in Kobe vs LeBron debate

PAUL PIERCE - Paul Pierce Puts Kobe Ahead of Lebron

CHARLES BARKLEY -http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/...bron-james-higher-than-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan

SHAQUILLE O'NEAL - Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron

STEPHEN JACKSON - Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED | FOX Sports

CHRIS WEBBER - Is Chris Webber Team Kobe or Team LeBron?

DENNIS RODMAN - Dennis Rodman On Judge Pirro Says Kobe Is Better Than Lebron

JARED DUDLEY- Jared Dudley Says Kobe Bryant Was More Difficult To Guard Than LeBron James Or Kevin Durant

TRACY MCGRADY - McGrady: 'No doubt' Kobe best player I've faced, including MJ - ESPN Video

SCOTTIE PIPPEN- Scottie Pippen Says LeBron James Hasn't Passed Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan

DERRICK ROSE - Derrick Rose: Kobe is the Jordan of our generation

RICK BARRY - Rick Barry: Kobe is better than Lebron

STEPHON MARBURY - VIDEO: Stephon Marbury Believes Kobe, Not LeBron, Is NBA's Best - Lakers Nation

ALLEN IVERSON - Allen Iverson Names Top 5 Players of his Era, Talks Kobe vs LeBron

HAKEEM OLAJUWON - Hakeem Olajuwon says Kobe Bryant was his greatest success as a coach over Lebron

JULIUS ERVING - Julius Erving Picks Spurs Over Heat In Finals, Says He'd Take Kobe Over LeBron

REGGIE MILLER - Reggie Miller picks Kobe over LeBron | The Dan Patrick Show | FOX Sports Radio

GILBERT ARENAS -http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/...ames-will-never-be-michael-jordan-kobe-bryant

KYRIE IRVING - Kyrie Irving "I’d Put Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant Above Lebron"

RON ARTEST - Metta World Peace ranks Kobe best player in NBA history

TREVOR ARIZA - Trevor Ariza: Kobe Better Than LeBron and Duncan

LARRY BIRD - Larry Bird would like to team with Kobe for the win, LeBron for the fun

MARK JACKSON - Mark Jackson : "When Kobe retires, he will be greatest of all time"

TAYSHAUN PRINCE- Tayshaun Prince explains the differences between guarding Kobe and LeBron

DOMINIQUE WILKINS - Dominique Wilkins: "Kobe Bryant in his prime better all around player than Lebron"

GLEN RICE -http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/g...o-ever-come-to-michael-jordan-is-kobe-bryant/

JASON TERRY - Jason Terry Says Kobe > LeBron

GARY PAYTON - Gary Payton says Kobe Bryant is still the best player alive

DAVID WESLEY - David Wesley: 'LeBron Doesn't Have Killer Instinct Like Jordan Or Kobe'

KENNY SMITH - Kenny the Jet from TNT ranks Kobe above Lebron & more!

GREG ANTHONY - Greg Anthony: Kobe Better Than Michael!!

NICK YOUNG - Nick Young Says Kobe Bryant Is Better Than Michael Jordan - Ball Don't Stop

BRANDON JENNINGS - Brandon Jennings Calls Kobe Bryant 'The Greatest Ever,' Says MJ Had Better Cast


THNX BRUH..

DONT FORGET RASHAD MCCANTS

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Nah, you can't be taken seriously as a basketball fan if you don't have him at least top 10, and most knowledgeable will have him top 5.

Was undisputed best player from '09-'14, and has been in the argument from '07 until now. Has been historically good from day one, is tied for the most All-NBA First Teams and he hasn't fallen off yet. Will end up with the most All-NBA teams nods ever.

#1 all-time in playoff points and FTs, will be #1 in steals, top 3 in assists, top 10 rebounds. 3 rings, 3 Finals MVPs, including maybe the GOAT performance against a 73-win team.

10 better players :mjlol:

Replace Bron on the '07 Cavs and who else would've seen the Finals? :mjgrin:

Where do you rank Bron?

He lost to the Orlando Magic (let that sink in, he let yet another SF in Rashard Lewis hit a gamewinning shot over him :laff:) in 2009 and Kobe got the championship but Lebron was the undisputed best player in the league now? When do the lies end when does the truth begin? :mjlol:
 

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He lost to the Orlando Magic (let that sink in :laff:) in 2009 and Kobe got the championship but Lebron was the undisputed best player in the league now? When do the lies end when does the truth begin? :mjlol:

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Against Orlando:

LeBron averaged 39/8/8 on 49% with a game-winner
Kobe averaged 32/76 on 43%

And that's Kobe's best Finals series ever :mjlol:

Their sidekicks?

Mo 18/4/4 37% FG
Pau 19/9/2 on 60% FG

No comparison in the level of teammates.

Kobe in his MVP season won less games against the '08 Celtics than LeBron surrounded by trash. Does that mean he wasn't even the best player in his only MVP season? :mjgrin:
 

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Against Orlando:

LeBron averaged 39/8/8 on 49% with a game-winner
Kobe averaged 32/76 on 43%

And that's Kobe's best Finals series ever :mjlol:

Their sidekicks?

Mo 18/4/4 37% FG
Pau 19/9/2 on 60% FG

No comparison in the level of teammates.

Kobe in his MVP season won less games against the '08 Celtics than LeBron surrounded by trash. Does that mean he wasn't even the best player in his only MVP season? :mjgrin:

Kobe 5 rings, 5-7, and all out of the West, playing with broken fingers and being tripled teamed and sh*t :wow:. Kobe went to the Finals 4 times in Lebron's prime and never saw him once:mjgrin: It's ok though, maybe LeStat will do like Westbrook this year and average a triple double in the regular season only to make you feel better as a stan :mjgrin:
 

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Kobe 5 rings, 5-7, and all out of the West, playing with broken fingers and being tripled teamed and sh*t :wow:. Kobe went to the Finals 4 times in Lebron's prime and never saw him once:mjgrin: It's ok though, maybe LeStat will do like Westbrook this year and average a triple double in the regular season only to make you feel better as a stan :mjgrin:

:mjlol: You abandoned your logic quick there.

"LeBron can't be the best cos Kobe was winning titles those years"

LeBron went back-to-back with two MVPs and Finals MVPs. That's undisputed. Which are the undisputed Kobe years?:mjgrin:

The two years Kobe won titles, LeBron won MVP. Kobe's prime was spent missing the playoffs, getting bounced in the first round twice and giving up a 3-1 lead. In his best MVP season, he won less games against the champs than LeBron.

Where is the argument that he's better? :mjgrin:


Also "Went to the Finals 4 times in LeBron's prime." :mjlol: LeBron was a rookie in '04.:mjlol:
 

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:mjlol: You abandoned your logic quick there.

"LeBron can't be the best cos Kobe was winning titles those years"

LeBron went back-to-back with two MVPs and Finals MVPs. That's undisputed. Which are the undisputed Kobe years?:mjgrin:

The two years Kobe won titles, LeBron won MVP. Kobe's prime was spent missing the playoffs, getting bounced in the first round twice and giving up a 3-1 lead. In his best MVP season, he won less games against the champs than LeBron.

Where is the argument that he's better? :mjgrin:


Also "Went to the Finals 4 times in LeBron's prime." :mjlol: LeBron was a rookie in '04.:mjlol:

You mean when he went to Miami to form Voltron with Wade and Bosh? :mjlol: Larry Bird already commented on the value of the MVP award nowadays, I have nothing to add :hubie:I am trying to understand your argument with Lebron ever at any point and time being better than Kobe when not one NBA player of note would agree with you. They had to give him awards because of his stats in the East, and Final MVPs because he was the best player on the winning team. From 2008-2010 your MVP was nowhere to be found, he got swept by the Spurs in '07 and 5 game swept again in '14. Matter of fact Kawhi got the FMVP in '14, damn remind me why we are having this conversation :mjlol:
 
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