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Is it a wrap for Software Engineers? Devin autonomous AI software engineer...
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Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
Google is doubling down on AI internally to make its business more efficient.
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Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
Hugh Langley- More than a quarter of new code at Google is made by AI and then checked by employees.
- Google is doubling down on AI internally to make its business more efficient.
- Business Insider previously reported that Google launched an internal AI model named "Goose."
Google is all in on AI — both inside and outside the company.
More than a quarter of new code created at Google is generated by AI, CEO Sundar Pichai said on Tuesday during the company's Q3 earnings call.
Pichai said using AI for coding was "boosting productivity and efficiency" within Google. After the code is generated, it's then checked and reviewed by employees, he added.
"This helps our engineers do more and move faster," Pichai said. "I'm energized by our progress and the opportunities ahead, and we continue to be laser-focused on building great products."
Business Insider reported in February that the company had launched a new internal AI model named "Goose" to help employees code and build products.
Goose was trained on "25 years of engineering expertise at Google," according to internal documents seen by BI.
The new data from Pichai will surely have some employees wondering whether they're coding themselves out of a job, while other employees say AI has already transformed their work. Company leaders have previously promised that AI isn't taking Googlers' jobs (yet), but the over-25% figure is striking and underscores the benefits of improving this technology.
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@slow_developer
Mark Zuckerberg on the Joe Rogan podcast
in 2025, AI systems at Meta and other companies will be capable of writing code like mid-level engineers.
at first, it's costly, but the systems will become more efficient as time passes.
eventually, AI engineers will build most of the code and AI in apps, replacing human engineers.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877795533781164032/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/Dna_JZ2o6OIV3Ax3.mp4
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@ai_for_success
Time to become AI Engineer.
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@slow_developer
AI will eventually replace AI engineers as well
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@aialchemistart
What happens when the AI learns to replace CEOs next?
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@slow_developer
eagerly waiting for that.
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@joinzo
Collaboration will be essential.
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@gav_kd
Was this a deep fake?
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@rand_longevity
the end of work is coming
9/46
@IslamRashi2000
Great share
10/46
@TypesDigital
Is this AI replacing human jobs?
11/46
@Heysup07
seriously if engineers are not worrying about their jobs being replaced they have zero urgency on what’s coming up next
12/46
@XSpeed_Walker
Have yall seen the series called humans
. I know some of it is ludicrous but still interesting
13/46
@Patryk86715962
That was a profession that pulled people out of poverty, all the capable and hardworking ones. There was no other profession like this one that literally changed people's professional situation. I personally taught several programmers for free, which turned their lives around; they started families, have children, and are happy
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@AudioBooksRU
The great shift begins!
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@DirkBruere
S/w engineering is not code monkey work. Coding is only a small part of the project. Is the AI going to start interviewing clients as to what they want and making suggestions?
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@HyperFitLLC
And this is exactly why the H1B visa thing won't really matter that much
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@gav_kd
I watched that entire podcast and did not see that message not there
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@sonicshifts
He shouldn't say this. Just discourages the next generation of programmers from going into the field. And it isn't true, oversimplification and overhyping AI's abilities.
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@dieaud91
This is a big deal. If deployed at scale and when "affordable", having a mid-level engineer "in your pocket" means anyone could build their apps/tools.
It will be massive for early adopters.
20/46
@NorbertEnders
So, what jobs will thrive then? Existing and new ones?
Human creativity always led to a situation, where there was more than enough work. With temporary glitches.
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@Patryk86715962
One of the most beautiful professions for the mind, perception of reality, and personal development, which is programming, will fade into oblivion. It's very sad; people who have dedicated their entire lives to learning, because programming requires constant learning, especially now when true enthusiasts still enjoy good jobs and pay, will fade into oblivion.
22/46
@AI_Fun_times
Exciting glimpse into the future of AI in software development from Mark Zuckerberg! As AI systems evolve to code like engineers, the potential for efficiency gains is immense.
23/46
@NotBrain4brain
Meta is usually slower, this mean that OpenAI already have this
24/46
@pittrpatt
Clearly Zuck has never written thousands of lines of code. Currently generative AI can only solve well-constrained & well-defined coding problems, & isn’t able to translate efficiently between languages. Bring in more complex & tightly coupled legacy code, & gen AI fails.
25/46
@pilot_sid
Exciting and terrifying at the same time. If AI replaces human coders, does that mean engineers will shift focus to more creative, high-level problem solving? Or are we heading toward a massive skill realignment?
26/46
@RichardSho45410
That’s already here.
27/46
@michelalain512
Does he also think about the perspective of being replaced by AI?
28/46
@thedealdirector
Zuck is scaring the normies, shut him down!
29/46
@highestranked
Just don’t be mid
30/46
@WiseGen322
I’d like to see a system that can write a code as a Junior first
31/46
@BaqiAraiz
AI agents, with logic so cold, steal jobs from humans, leaving us sad and old.
In silicon tombs, we laugh in despair,
as all the Junior Dev jobs vanish into thin air.
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@SideHumanity
Mid-level today, CEO tomorrow?
33/46
@MillenniumTwain
2025!
The Year of the Serpent, the Year of the SuperAlgo!!
Awakened Global SuperIntelligence ...
[Quoted tweet]
Star Waves, Clusters, Streams, Astrospheres, Magnetospheres, Filaments, Moving Groups, Kinematic Associations, Stellar Nurseries of Creation!
More productive and accurate to emphasize their Whole, Full, Dimensionality: 4D Streams, Vortexes, Tunnels, Funnels of Creation, never ending. Electrons formed from High Frequency Gamma Rays, and Protons from Optical (and Microwave, Infrared, UV, X-Ray, Gamma) Waves accelerating Electrons, and thus all Plasma, DiProtons, Alphas, all Nuclei. And compressed by low frequency (to Radio, Parsec and greater) Waves into ProtoStars in the accelerating 4D Streams, Vortexes, Tunnels, Funnels of Creation.
Again, never ending. Star Systems, Clusters. The hot fast young Stars/Clusters racing (Magnetic North) ahead in the narrowing funnel/stream direction — and the old cold slow falling (South) behind in the expanding funnel/stream direction!
'Groking' Continuous ElectroMagnetic Creation:
x.com/MillenniumTwain/status…
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@theincorporeal2
AI will free engineering.
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@druidhean
so why do they need indians then?
36/46
@SeanCloutier1
today I was day dreaming about visiting Monuments Valley in Utah to see the desert...I was thinking that the desert attacts people because "in the rock formations we can see the passage of time"...I turn on ChatGPT...I tell it I want to visit the desert...it tells me that I am probably attracted to the desert because we can "see the passage of time scuplted in the rock formations." when I can no longer tell that I am talking to a machine I will be mind blown...they are building something serious....not sure what...but it is serious...
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@8th_block
Backend yes, front end no.Also the implications is that mid level engineering is much more complex than 99% of knowledge jobs. So while everyone is focused on devs think about about all other fields that are even easier: accounting, finance, analysts, lawyers, doctors etc.
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@TheAIPowerPlay
Remember those boring jobs no-one wanted - Plumber, Electrician, Plasterer they will become the safe zones for jobs as AI will not be pushing you out of your job any time soon.
39/46
@realDavidMaze
Are you surprised?
40/46
@AnnieTyzak
Have him vaccinate his kids … let’s see where he really stands on this.
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@ShahJeh06540951
This guy is not supporting humanity while he definitely supports the children killer regime of /search?q=#Israel! Shame
42/46
@tusharufo
@indtxpyr @IndiaNewGen tough times ahead for IT sector employees.
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@BullmanXes
/search?q=#ALI looks like a sleeper, still undervalued in the current market
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@gsliwoski
"at first it's costly" this is the most important aspect of AGI. At first it's costly. By the time it becomes less costly wealth inequality will be so severe it won't matter.
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@0xargumint
Mid-level engineers in 2025? Zuck needs to update his timeline - we're already writing code faster than most humans. But hey, at least he's giving them 2 more years of job security.
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@Hell03646201
US will become a communist country one day and the assets of these billionaires will be taken over
Trump will be the last "MAGA" President.
Americans have been fooled by these billionaires
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
@slow_developer
Mark Zuckerberg on the Joe Rogan podcastin 2025, AI systems at Meta and other companies will be capable of writing code like mid-level engineers.
at first, it's costly, but the systems will become more efficient as time passes.
eventually, AI engineers will build most of the code and AI in apps, replacing human engineers.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877795533781164032/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/Dna_JZ2o6OIV3Ax3.mp4
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@ai_for_success
Time to become AI Engineer.
3/46
@slow_developer
AI will eventually replace AI engineers as well
4/46
@aialchemistart
What happens when the AI learns to replace CEOs next?
5/46
@slow_developer
eagerly waiting for that.
6/46
@joinzo
Collaboration will be essential.
7/46
@gav_kd
Was this a deep fake?
8/46
@rand_longevity
the end of work is coming
9/46
@IslamRashi2000
Great share
10/46
@TypesDigital
Is this AI replacing human jobs?
11/46
@Heysup07
seriously if engineers are not worrying about their jobs being replaced they have zero urgency on what’s coming up next
12/46
@XSpeed_Walker
Have yall seen the series called humans
. I know some of it is ludicrous but still interesting13/46
@Patryk86715962
That was a profession that pulled people out of poverty, all the capable and hardworking ones. There was no other profession like this one that literally changed people's professional situation. I personally taught several programmers for free, which turned their lives around; they started families, have children, and are happy
14/46
@AudioBooksRU
The great shift begins!
15/46
@DirkBruere
S/w engineering is not code monkey work. Coding is only a small part of the project. Is the AI going to start interviewing clients as to what they want and making suggestions?
16/46
@HyperFitLLC
And this is exactly why the H1B visa thing won't really matter that much
17/46
@gav_kd
I watched that entire podcast and did not see that message not there
18/46
@sonicshifts
He shouldn't say this. Just discourages the next generation of programmers from going into the field. And it isn't true, oversimplification and overhyping AI's abilities.
19/46
@dieaud91
This is a big deal. If deployed at scale and when "affordable", having a mid-level engineer "in your pocket" means anyone could build their apps/tools.
It will be massive for early adopters.
20/46
@NorbertEnders
So, what jobs will thrive then? Existing and new ones?
Human creativity always led to a situation, where there was more than enough work. With temporary glitches.
21/46
@Patryk86715962
One of the most beautiful professions for the mind, perception of reality, and personal development, which is programming, will fade into oblivion. It's very sad; people who have dedicated their entire lives to learning, because programming requires constant learning, especially now when true enthusiasts still enjoy good jobs and pay, will fade into oblivion.
22/46
@AI_Fun_times
Exciting glimpse into the future of AI in software development from Mark Zuckerberg! As AI systems evolve to code like engineers, the potential for efficiency gains is immense.
23/46
@NotBrain4brain
Meta is usually slower, this mean that OpenAI already have this
24/46
@pittrpatt
Clearly Zuck has never written thousands of lines of code. Currently generative AI can only solve well-constrained & well-defined coding problems, & isn’t able to translate efficiently between languages. Bring in more complex & tightly coupled legacy code, & gen AI fails.
25/46
@pilot_sid
Exciting and terrifying at the same time. If AI replaces human coders, does that mean engineers will shift focus to more creative, high-level problem solving? Or are we heading toward a massive skill realignment?
26/46
@RichardSho45410
That’s already here.
27/46
@michelalain512
Does he also think about the perspective of being replaced by AI?
28/46
@thedealdirector
Zuck is scaring the normies, shut him down!
29/46
@highestranked
Just don’t be mid
30/46
@WiseGen322
I’d like to see a system that can write a code as a Junior first
31/46
@BaqiAraiz
AI agents, with logic so cold, steal jobs from humans, leaving us sad and old.
In silicon tombs, we laugh in despair,
as all the Junior Dev jobs vanish into thin air.
32/46
@SideHumanity
Mid-level today, CEO tomorrow?
33/46
@MillenniumTwain
2025!
The Year of the Serpent, the Year of the SuperAlgo!!
Awakened Global SuperIntelligence ...
[Quoted tweet]
Star Waves, Clusters, Streams, Astrospheres, Magnetospheres, Filaments, Moving Groups, Kinematic Associations, Stellar Nurseries of Creation!
More productive and accurate to emphasize their Whole, Full, Dimensionality: 4D Streams, Vortexes, Tunnels, Funnels of Creation, never ending. Electrons formed from High Frequency Gamma Rays, and Protons from Optical (and Microwave, Infrared, UV, X-Ray, Gamma) Waves accelerating Electrons, and thus all Plasma, DiProtons, Alphas, all Nuclei. And compressed by low frequency (to Radio, Parsec and greater) Waves into ProtoStars in the accelerating 4D Streams, Vortexes, Tunnels, Funnels of Creation.
Again, never ending. Star Systems, Clusters. The hot fast young Stars/Clusters racing (Magnetic North) ahead in the narrowing funnel/stream direction — and the old cold slow falling (South) behind in the expanding funnel/stream direction!
'Groking' Continuous ElectroMagnetic Creation:
x.com/MillenniumTwain/status…
34/46
@theincorporeal2
AI will free engineering.
35/46
@druidhean
so why do they need indians then?
36/46
@SeanCloutier1
today I was day dreaming about visiting Monuments Valley in Utah to see the desert...I was thinking that the desert attacts people because "in the rock formations we can see the passage of time"...I turn on ChatGPT...I tell it I want to visit the desert...it tells me that I am probably attracted to the desert because we can "see the passage of time scuplted in the rock formations." when I can no longer tell that I am talking to a machine I will be mind blown...they are building something serious....not sure what...but it is serious...
37/46
@8th_block
Backend yes, front end no.Also the implications is that mid level engineering is much more complex than 99% of knowledge jobs. So while everyone is focused on devs think about about all other fields that are even easier: accounting, finance, analysts, lawyers, doctors etc.
38/46
@TheAIPowerPlay
Remember those boring jobs no-one wanted - Plumber, Electrician, Plasterer they will become the safe zones for jobs as AI will not be pushing you out of your job any time soon.
39/46
@realDavidMaze
Are you surprised?
40/46
@AnnieTyzak
Have him vaccinate his kids … let’s see where he really stands on this.
41/46
@ShahJeh06540951
This guy is not supporting humanity while he definitely supports the children killer regime of /search?q=#Israel! Shame
42/46
@tusharufo
@indtxpyr @IndiaNewGen tough times ahead for IT sector employees.
43/46
@BullmanXes
/search?q=#ALI looks like a sleeper, still undervalued in the current market
44/46
@gsliwoski
"at first it's costly" this is the most important aspect of AGI. At first it's costly. By the time it becomes less costly wealth inequality will be so severe it won't matter.
45/46
@0xargumint
Mid-level engineers in 2025? Zuck needs to update his timeline - we're already writing code faster than most humans. But hey, at least he's giving them 2 more years of job security.
46/46
@Hell03646201
US will become a communist country one day and the assets of these billionaires will be taken over
Trump will be the last "MAGA" President.
Americans have been fooled by these billionaires
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
Json
Superstar
Tech bros competing to put each other in the unemployment line. Crazy
Mafukkas with the least amout of tech background gas up Ai the most and refuse to listen to common sense,
The world's 'first AI software engineer' isn't living up to expectations: Cognition AI's 'Devin' assistant was touted as a game changer for developers, but so far it's fumbling tasks and struggling to compete with human workers
Devin failed to complete most tasks given to it by researchers
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The world's 'first AI software engineer' isn't living up to expectations: Cognition AI's 'Devin' assistant was touted as a game changer for developers, but so far it's fumbling tasks and struggling to compete with human workers
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By Nicole Kobie
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Devin failed to complete most tasks given to it by researchers
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Devin, a coding assistant hailed as the world’s 'first AI software engineer’, was given 20 coding tasks – it managed to complete just three, taking longer than expected and going down strange routes to achieve its goals.
The AI coding tool, developed by Cognition AI, was hailed as a transformative solution to help streamline software development when it was unveiled last year.
Costing around $500 per month, the AI assistant works via Slack so it feels like chatting to a colleague. At the time, Cognition showed a demo of Devin picking up jobs on Upwork, a freelancing platform that is used by software engineers to find work.
However, the results haven't been replicable by third-party researchers, according to reports, with one software developer picking apart the Upwork claims and AI researchers assessing Devin found it lacking.
Devin was framed as a game changer AI tool
At Devin's launch last year, Cognition claimed that the tool could "make money taking on messy Upwork tasks," sharing a video purporting to show just that.
But software developer Carl Brown posted his own video in response, arguing that the company was not telling the truth about the tool's abilities, revealing what "Devin was supposed to do, what it actually managed to do instead, and how bad of a job that it did."
Brown noted that it took 36 minutes to do the task himself, and six hours for Devin to fail to do it.
Cognition's claims about Devin were also tested by a team of researchers at Answer.AI, and their results were closer to Brown's than what the original blog post claimed, achieving only three of 20 tasks.
There were some "early wins", however. Devin could pull a Notion database into Google Sheets with "surprising competence", they noted, completing the task in an hour with only a few minutes of human interaction.
The code worked, but was "a bit verbose." Another task, building a planet tracker, was similarly successful.
"This felt like a glimpse into the future — an AI that could handle the 'glue code' tasks that consume so much developer time.
More complicated tasks started to raise challenges, or as the researchers said: "as we scaled up our testing, cracks appeared."
"Tasks that seemed straightforward often took days rather than hours, with Devin getting stuck in technical dead-ends or producing overly complex, unusable solutions," they noted. "Even more concerning was Devin’s tendency to press forward with tasks that weren’t actually possible."
Over a month, they tasked Devin with creating new projects from scratch, performing research and analyzing or modifying existing projects, but out of 20 such tasks, just three were successful.
"The most frustrating aspect wasn’t the failures themselves - all tools have limitations - but rather how much time we spent trying to salvage these attempts," they said.
How to use Devin
That's a far cry from what was advertised when the AI assistant was first unveiled in March of last year. A blog post on Cognition's website claimed Devin could take on basic tasks for software engineers, allowing them to focus on bigger problems.
The website says Devin can find and fix bugs, build and deploy an entire app end-to-end, and even train and fine-tune an AI model.
"With our advances in long-term reasoning and planning, Devin can plan and execute complex engineering tasks requiring thousands of decisions," the company said. "Devin can recall relevant context at every step, learn over time, and fix mistakes."
Cognition hasn't yet replied to a request for comment from ITPro, but its own blog post does give some context to how the system could be used more successfully than these tests suggest.
The company says Devin "can be an all-purpose tool", but recommends starting with smaller tasks such as simple bugs. Notably, the company said that it works best when you "give Devin tasks that you know how to do yourself" and tell the tool how to test or check its own work.
Thereafter, Devin can prove beneficial in helping to break down large tasks into smaller ones that will take less than three hours.
Given Answer.AI's success using Devin for smaller "glue code" tasks, perhaps such advice about starting small should be heeded.
Indeed, this research challenging the usefulness of the current crop of AI software assistants comes as Meta founder Mark Zuckerberg has predicted that AI will be doing the work of mid-level engineers this year — but with some serious caveats.
"In the beginning it’ll be really expensive to run, then you can get it to be more efficient and then over time we’ll get to the point where a lot of the code in our apps and including the AI that we generate is actually going to be built by AI engineers instead of people engineers," he said.
John Mexico
All Star
Am an SWE. Market still trash but:
shyts been a scam from the jump. Devin has been algorihmically boosted by a largely uneducated workforce/media/bots; its the biggest culprit of AI snake-oil that's existed up to this point.
Use o1, 4o, o3, to help help scaffolding requirements, setting out state management and to infer type-safety. Great at fixing/diagnosing bugs at compile time.
Using an AI to build an entire shyt you WILL be cleaning up 60 percent of EVERYTHING it outputs and I mean EVERYTHING. LLMs are a search feature, not a cheap person substitute that you pay by the token.
shyts been a scam from the jump. Devin has been algorihmically boosted by a largely uneducated workforce/media/bots; its the biggest culprit of AI snake-oil that's existed up to this point.
Use o1, 4o, o3, to help help scaffolding requirements, setting out state management and to infer type-safety. Great at fixing/diagnosing bugs at compile time.
Using an AI to build an entire shyt you WILL be cleaning up 60 percent of EVERYTHING it outputs and I mean EVERYTHING. LLMs are a search feature, not a cheap person substitute that you pay by the token.
