Is Hip Hop truly dead outside of rap?

Is the culture still alive?

  • Hip hop will never die

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Nah, it's been dead breh

    Votes: 12 63.2%
  • I'm up-rocking on a piece of cardboard as we speak :flabbynsick:

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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MasterThought

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"Healing Our People" what a joke :dead:



Hip-hop (specifically rap) has turned into literal mental and spiritual poison and has played the biggest role the past 30+ years in destroying the image of the black man and black woman.

It's dead...hip-hop ain't healing ish in 2024.

And if anybody's rebuttal is "but bu but....it's thriving in the underground".....that's my point.....we don't need it deep down in the underground with the worms & maggots.....we need it thriving up here in the mainstream.


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Or have the four elements simply rebranded with the times? :jbhmm:

I don't know. The other elements may not be as profitable so how can they be measured?

I always thought dance, art, and turntablism are the pure forms.

They're angelic. It's almost like they can't be corrupted.
 

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Mainstream wise? Absolutely. Underground? Absolutely not.

And as a retort to @MasterThought it becoming mainstream is the reason it's the way it is in the first place. Once it became for everyone people diluted everything imaginable until we got where we are.
 

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I would say they are sub cultures now. One does not necessarily have to do with the other though mcing and djing will always be linked.

Okay.

But when they are linked ie. Graff on stage or videos - I feel that's important and adds points to whoever does it.
 

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U know it’s bad when rappers ain’t selling shows and albums…

If u want real Hip Hop, u better go dig into the underground.


This year has been terrible for Hip Hop.

BET Awards was awful as well. They should wrap that up too.


It wasn’t a good album that moved me tbh.


The only thing this year that was exciting in Hip Hop was Kendrick vs Drake.
 
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DJ alive but b*stardized
Grafitti alive
Rapping alive but mostly trash and/or pop
breakdancing dead besides a very tiny few

The culture as a whole needs to go more underground and embrace the underground, but it's so mainstream now that it's nearly impossible to do that.
 

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Yes.

Once krs failed to just diss bambaata on wax.
It signaled the definitive definite end.
Just like his endorsement of puff.
Signaled what was the beginning of the end.

It reverted the last profitable pillar based business of rap.
back from being a culture. Into the fad. It was originally pegged to be and almost die.
after the Roxanne wars.
Created the energy.
for the mores and norms of the new school way of thought.
to become prevalent and usher out. the ol school way of thought.

When krs failed to at least diss bambaata on wax. It ruined any gateway.
for any new bboy and bgirl.
to ever have life.
Plus protect the future of hiphop culture in any pillar.

As there is no cultural more or norm to ensure. Hiphop culture goes forward. All that exists now are the businesses segregated away from and of hiphop. Which were all misappropriated.
before rap even became a draw.

This moment of doom was echoed from wild style to styles war to breakin. After beat street bait and switched the consumer about Melle Mel and the five. Then we got a shay shay Sashay androgynous pagan classical trained beauty pageant. Coupled with Leroy from fame being an androgynous pagan. To close off the original largest gateway of breaking as well.
Instead of an actual real expression of culturally what occurs in nature. At a culture based gathering of bboys and bgirls. Where hiphop is anti-andrigynous pagan
Which made wild style what it was. Which made styles war what it was. It made breaking into what it was. Until too much big budget bs made breaking 2. Another misappropriated point in the sand. To create what would eventually become the new school way of thought. Ushered in by krs.
Where any ol school principal was held over in legacy. Yet held in check. [Fab 5 Freddie was even given a pass. Till administratively being underhanded in crucial conflicts career. Ehich again..hiphop had to tske on the chin s d defend. Just because a business from its elements were misappropriated. To do away with fab 5 for good as a hiphop based draw culturally in the new school way of thought].

By krs being a devil worshipping androgynous pagan supporter of child molestation. As well as not protecting hiphop culture regardless. How can anyone get a child like i was into hiphop at four. From watching pbs from the mic expose on gangs. How can you market the culture of hiphop away. If you take away its nonviolent, ain't gang, anti gay core mores and norms of the new school way of thought. Then continue with it.
after the roxanne wars at six, seven, eight years old. to now at forty seven soon forty eight years old.

how can anyone validate a child.
to be into hiphop culture. In the same manner as hiphop used to be able to.
When the so-called teacher. Let a child molester in the class. Then allows said child molester to molest a kid. Then deflect blame on to a child. As well as excuse that behavior in a culture. Which only exists.
as the antithesis of the androgynous pagan sexually deviant soundtrack and music of disco. Or misappropriated rnb. Where again krs traveled to where the disco demolition ocxurred in chicsgo. Then marched throughed the chicago public school system. With all the children.
in the worst school system and the now worst school.
once the best school in america. All singing in u ison:

One
Two
Three
How csn you stop the violence.

When you allow.
a violent androgynous pagan pedophile to prey and endanger children.
Plus violate. That which you once stood up against in unison and was powered by the strength of kids,...childre.

As well as destroying the pagan disco misappropriated culture theif style of music.
in hiphouse as well. As well as desroying the flagship artist.
In Kool rock steady.

So there was never hiphouse.
When hiphouse is really electronica and derived from bambaata too. What was different then than now. Except. The person and example that showcased and asked to teach. No longer wants to teach and now plays complete favoritism.

You can not lie to create a real thing. Then once sumfin real exists. Try to repredicate that thing on the lie. It already defeated.

That is why hiphop ia dead.

To have hiphop culture. You must have the new school way of thought. Since krs destroyed that. You do not have hiphop culture. As there is no way.
to produce or protect anything.
connected to what was once hiphop.


It is like star wars.
Nobody is fearing a jedi without a light saber. Krs kiterally took all the power from any light saber any one may ever have. Plus ruined any way for someone even interested. To create anything after that. Even if someone becomes great at a skill in a pillar of hiphop. There is no culture norm or more.
to give credence to that.
Hence why breaking at rhe Olympics is noongee there. How can you have the original gateway of a culture that is androgynous pagan. In a competition. Where the opening ceremony is welled in being an androgynous pagan. Plus welled in rhe same dictatorship. The very people who created hiphop are against.

How can you create from that.
Or sustain a culture from that.

How can we express education.
When a pedophile is allowed to go unchecked amongst the youth. Whem said culture existed.
All because it raised awareness.
in the worst public school system. for fifty years in america in chicsgo Illinois. before you.
Or i was born.
In a culture that is anti androgynous pagan.
That is anti violent amongst bboy and bgirl.
A culture that anti gang.


It all unravels.
As hiphop is also a culture built on Carthage men.
taking over an androgynous pagan dictatorship.
that ruined the entire world.

How can you create anything. When every culture more and norm has been destroyed in a culture.


All that is left is some guy like me online. Where nobody gives two shyts.
if they ever see anyone like me.
do a cot damn thing ever again.

How can you grab a child interest.
In a culture based on protecting children. That no longer upholds any norm or more to protect the children or adults of said culture?

Hiphop has been attacked from within.

By child molester and nikkaz as evil as a anakin Skywalker, roman androgynous pagan dictstorship empire and hitler combined internally.
While also taking away.
any power.
Or voice.
of the people in the culture.
who had skill and power to do sumfin.

Hip hop is dead.


There only exists.


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Rebranded with the times.


Hiphip is not hiphop.
if it is misappropriated.
As hiphop arose.
from taking back.
from that which was misappropriated in studio 54 to global boom of disco.
As well as desecration of hip hop's strict history. As well as hiphop's culture protrction mechanism mores and norms.


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