Is Ellen Rilpley the most unlucky character from the 70-90’s sci-fi/Horror era?

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I imagine being stranded out on the middle of the ocean at night on a raft would be similarly terrifying...

and even then it's not even close to the dangers of space :sadcam:
This was how it was when the Titanic sank

The moon wasn't out that night so it was pitch black, and you're in 20 degree water surrounded by a thousand screams

If that ain't Hell what is?:wow:
 

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-I just happened to be watching random Alien vids on YouTube last night & discovered that Jesus exists in the lore.


In a round about way.
Prometheus deals with the historical connection slash scientology thing.

Prometheus is a great ride for exposition in the series. Plus to witness rhe sheer ignorance of people with degrees in outer space.

I enjoyed ranted rhe stoopid in that movie. It afta as rhe origin to the series. Yet we did not need the origin.
If it did not result in Ripley killing weylan.

So all of the movies after part two or aliens. Is just a revenue grab. Ehen aliens should be treated a lot better than a just some cliche creature feature. When aliens is rhe goat creature feature. While also being centered around an incredible Sci fi meets corporate greed story as well.
Arguably the best Sci fi lore for a creature feature all time. That is literally going to waste. The longer this ip does not being back Ripley, Newt and the film adaptation of Morris the cat.


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Sarah Connor has a argument to being just as unlucky as Ripley. At least Ripley was able to get some sleep :pachaha:

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.....significance?
-The engineers sent someone down to Earth to live amongst the humans to assess their progress and the humans crucified him. It was the final straw that got humanity deemed a failure that needed to be wiped out.
 

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....Yet we did not need the origin.
If it did not result in Ripley killing weylan.
...So all of the movies after part two or aliens. Is just a revenue grab. Ehen aliens should be treated a lot better than a just some cliche creature feature. When aliens is rhe goat creature feature. While also being centered around an incredible Sci fi meets corporate greed story as well.
Arguably the best Sci fi lore for a creature feature all time. That is literally going to waste. The longer this ip does not being back Ripley, Newt and the film adaptation of Morris the cat.


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-Weyland's whole story is about playing God, trying to find God, then being judged by God. The message is be careful what you wish for & Ripley killing him does nothing for the lore or story.

-I'm fine with corporate greed taking a backseat to the creatures & lore. Now that I see more of the overall lore & direction I can appreciate certain things differently.
 

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-Weyland's whole story is about playing God, trying to find God, then being judged by God. The message is be careful what you wish for & Ripley killing him does nothing for the lore or story.

-I'm fine with corporate greed taking a backseat to the creatures & lore. Now that I see more of the overall lore & direction I can appreciate certain things differently.


Everything you appreciate the movies for.
After aliens that included Ripley, Newt, hicks and the film adaptation of Morris the cat.

Was fleshed out in the comic book.
like thirty years ago breh.
As a matter of fact.
The Numbers from the comic. Probably kept interest for the ip alive. To make these shyt fest revenue grabs after the second aliens.
Which is why all these revenue grabs make no sense. To deviate from what has shown is the draw of aliens.

When the draw for xenos was kept popular. By the print run of content of newt v weylan.
Where we should have got Ripley and Newt blowing weylan away. Plus destroying all robots period.
As well as eradicating all xenos.

instead.
Aliens is revenue nad cliche like a bad chuckie or leprechaun movie.

only thing making it decent is we get the story half told about weylan. Yet we have no hero worth a damn. To even invest in aliens.

Aliens is about Ripley and Newt.
Just like 28 days later was about Harris and Murphys characters.
Just like star wars is about Luke sky walker.
Yeah we liie the fright the creature feature creates. Yet the reason people enjoy the ip is because of the hero aspect.

Which we know drives the draw of any ip property.
That once the hero draw is reduced or wrongly eliminated. Said ip goes to complete shyt.

Example. Dc killing batman ans superman. Then marvel cinema universe following suit and basically killing captain America, and iron man.

Which is because the draw is the hero.
This whole prison industry economy fascination.
with the villain does not make money. Heros make money.

Which is why aliens has been a defunct ip. As aliens failed as a draw. Simply because it failed its heros.

Simple as that.


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Everything you appreciate the movies for.
After aliens that included Ripley, Newt, hicks and the film adaptation of Morris the cat.

Was fleshed out in the comic book.
like thirty years ago breh.
As a matter of fact.
The Numbers from the comic. Probably kept interest for the ip alive. To make these shyt fest revenue grabs after the second aliens.
Which is why all these revenue grabs make no sense. To deviate from what has shown is the draw of aliens.
When the draw for xenos was kept popular. By the print run of content of newt v weylan.
Where we should have got Ripley and Newt blowing weylan away. Plus destroying all robots period.
As well as eradicating all xenos.
instead.
Aliens is revenue nad cliche like a bad chuckie or leprechaun movie.
only thing making it decent is we get the story half told about weylan. Yet we have no hero worth a damn. To even invest in aliens.
Aliens is about Ripley and Newt.
Just like 28 days later was about Harris and Murphys characters.
Just like star wars is about Luke sky walker.
Yeah we liie the fright the creature feature creates. Yet the reason people enjoy the ip is because of the hero aspect.
Which we know drives the draw of any ip property.
That once the hero draw is reduced or wrongly eliminated. Said ip goes to complete shyt.
Example. Dc killing batman ans superman. Then marvel cinema universe following suit and basically killing captain America, and iron man.
Which is because the draw is the hero.
This whole prison industry economy fascination.
with the villain does not make money. Heros make money.
Which is why aliens has been a defunct ip. As aliens failed as a draw. Simply because it failed its heros.
Simple as that.
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-I'm not a studio exec & I'm talking about the lore so I don't care about any of this. Ripley should've stayed dead & I couldn't care less about Newt or the cat.

-I appreciated the movies for the tense atmosphere & survival/suspense/horror. Outside of X-Men/Panther/Spider-Man I watch these movies for the story first, I barely care about the hero aspect.

-The videos I was watching included the lore from the comics along with interviews explaining certain aspects of the lore. As a writer I appreciate the bigger picture more than I did before.
 

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-I'm not a studio exec & I'm talking about the lore so I don't care about any of this. Ripley should've stayed dead & I couldn't care less about Newt or the cat.

-I appreciated the movies for the tense atmosphere & survival/suspense/horror. Outside of X-Men/Panther/Spider-Man I watch these movies for the story first, I barely care about the hero aspect.

-The videos I was watching included the lore from the comics along with interviews explaining certain aspects of the lore. As a writer I appreciate the bigger picture more than I did before.


Again.

Since you skim.
Plus do not read Indepth.
You value these bullshyt picture pages visual aid revenue grab of this ip.
As like i said.

If ypu read more than skim.
.they have this story in print.
Which was again only kept alive from the printed stories of newt vs weylan

So all this lore you talembout. Is a preschool picture pages styles visual aid of lore already in print sir.

Stop the bullshyt.
With this appreciation of lore.
As the lore is centralized entirely around Newt.
. The so called character you do not give a fukk about. Yet this ip has not drawn a cot damn thing since Newt was rescued by Ripley.
Plus as soon as newt was killed off screen. This series and your so-called fascination with lore. Became a dead drawing ip.

That again..the print containing the lore. Was still a draw containing newt.

So stop the bullshyt because you do not wanna read.
Plus want a easy accessible visual aid.
You are one of these people who value commercialization. Then try to act like this commercialization was good.
.fukk outta here. No wonder you never review shyt here ever.

It would expose you do not know the subject matter outside of what your favorite is. As it sure is not hiphop and quality products.
As aliens from critical acclaim has been fukking dumb since newt was killed off screen and also never recovered in draw at all whatsoever.
Not to mention...James cameron has not flopped in any film outside of his lesson filming at sea. To make a sea based creature feature. Which flopped because it had no central hero like Ripley. Plus any other property cameron is attached to. Has included the era's tv or movie female heroine.

From beauty and the beast's Linda Hamilton. Which became the star of terminator.
To the survivor on titanic.
To the numerous female heroine and supporting female heroine cast of characters. That also include weaver. On a hollywood blockbuster ip. That posts well over a billion box office consistently. Yet here you are talembout you do not care about the hero dynamic. When the hero dynamic even stretches to your own mention marvel.

nikka stop yo bullshyt skimming.
nobody is fooled.

that it extends to you not knowing any kernel of knowledge on what we talembout.
Which also explains why you want a low quality visual aid. To be rhe gateway expression for a property made high quality in lore from the print run that includes rhe very hero dynamic you say you do not care about. Yet created this so called lore you fascinated with.

Which is goofie as fukk.
Plus you so far from having joy. From good products. You full devil worshipping pagan too.

Plus you write in red.
Like you obsessed with enabling low quality and negativity too.

While being built in basic premise.
on trying to dispute.
that which you can not.
Which is a fact.
You let low quality and fascination with bullshyt rncompass everything you do to low quality
that you trying to validate rhe low quality adaptation of higher wuality print work. Just bexause you do not wanna read and want a visual aid. nikka please.

no wonder white people can make people racist with birth of a nation in a movie. People like you make it easy.



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................... Art Barr
-As usual you're rambling about nothing & instead of indulging you I'll just stay on the topic.

-The lore was on the Engineers & their relationships with humans & Xenomorphs. It included their inspirations & what was taken from real world religion to use in stories. None of it is centered around Newt because Newt isn't alive or relevant to it. You're the one skimming since you think the entire lore revolves around Newt when it predates the creation of humanity & you can't even comprehend the Weylan story being bigger than Ripley.

-I come here for discussion & information, not to do reviews. I don't give a fukk about the box office revenue, commercialization, print draw, movies flopping or James Cameron.
 
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