Mike Otherz
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the way people reacted to his speech? i mean, he's a charismatic dude and a great explainer of stuff, but this dude has thrown black people under the bus too many times for me to fx with him. what do you think.
Is Clinton the GOAT?
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Not really, but it's hard not to be remembered fondly when you're in between two Bushes.
When most people think of Bill Clinton they remember the nineties when people were
and we didn't have these stupid wars, so he'll always have a high approval rating.
When most people think of Bill Clinton they remember the nineties when people were
and we didn't have these stupid wars, so he'll always have a high approval rating.
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GOAT? Hardly.
Best President in most of our lifetimes? Definitely.
I have to laugh at some of these dudes who think Obama has it rough with these Rethugs. Clinton had it way worse, especially in terms of the Republican Revolution and his personal life.
Ken Starr.
Best President in most of our lifetimes? Definitely.
I have to laugh at some of these dudes who think Obama has it rough with these Rethugs. Clinton had it way worse, especially in terms of the Republican Revolution and his personal life.
Ken Starr.
I don't know, it seems like the Republicans hate Obama way more than they hated Clinton. All these accusations of being a socialist/Muslim/communist/America hater/Marxist/etc. Not to mention the birther shyt.
But then again, I was a kid in the 90s so maybe it didn't seem as bad because I wasn't paying attention to politics.
everyone likes to avoid the criticisms of his housing policies when discussing his ranking among the greats..just sayin'.
out of the 20th and 21st century prez's, i'm giving it to eisenhower.
out of the 20th and 21st century prez's, i'm giving it to eisenhower.
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Over FDR? That's some crazy shyt.
Ike was a true leader, but FDR was revolutionary in many aspects.
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I don't know, it seems like the Republicans hate Obama way more than they hated Clinton. All these accusations of being a socialist/Muslim/communist/America hater/Marxist/etc. Not to mention the birther shyt.
But then again, I was a kid in the 90s so maybe it didn't seem as bad because I wasn't paying attention to politics.
Don't get me wrong, Obama definetely riled up the racist/xenophobic motherfukkers. Obama's hatred from the populace is WAY worse than what Clinton had to deal with.
I'm talking strictly about Republican contention.
They investigated the man for allegedly playing a part in a murder. They shut down the government to get what they wanted. They dug in every aspect of his personal life and affairs, and put it out in public.
That's not even close.
clinton can do no wrong lol
even hillary had to accept his ways...she probably pays for his escorts now and has em skype in for visual clearance
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No way in hell Clinton had it worse than Obama. Rethugs DESPISE that nikka.
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Clinton had it worse with Repubs than Obama????
You can't be serious. Clinton himself will tell you that's not even close to being true. The Repubs did not form a monolithic bloc of voters who voted against everything he did and used the threat of the filibuster to make 60 votes the minimum to for anything, even staff his treasury department. That is unprecedented in American history.Dusty Bake Activate
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Type, words cannot describe how wrong you are on this. Obama had to face Repubs making 60 votes the requirement to pass anything, even the most mundane shyt like appointing ambassadors. That was something new in American history unique to the Obama presidency. Clinton got taxes raised without it being filibustered. No President in history had to face what Obama faced in terms of obstruction. This is not even debatable.
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No but he is arguably the greatest President since LBJ, few presidents were able to get as much done as he had in a House and Senate controlled by Republicans, granted they were most moderate and Clinton (and Gore) were able to modify bills that were palatable to them.
Obama, has had far more challenges than any other acting President though, and he has overcome more than he will ever get credit for, just the Healthcare reform alone, however flawed was a huge achievement.
Obama, has had far more challenges than any other acting President though, and he has overcome more than he will ever get credit for, just the Healthcare reform alone, however flawed was a huge achievement.
fdr may be the most impactful in modern history, that much i do not argue.
but his economic policies were fairly radical. the marginal tax rate once reached 91 percent under his administration
he proposed a 100 percent marginal tax rate via executive order that got rescinded that would have limited salaries to 25 thousand dollars.
he forced nearly all american citizens to sell to the government privately held gold.
social security, which aimed to, and did help many, could also be looked at as breaking contract law, as i do not see an opt out clause in social security provisions, nor do i remember it being a contract based on mutual consent.
he does rank amongst the better american modern prez's but he is not better than ike.
i wont go into his ww2 accomplishments, as they were before his presidency, as long as you don't give more credit to fdr than you would ike, for the successes in ww2.
in his first year, he successfully completed a coup of iran and defeated china by proxy. sounds like we could use that now.
he ended mccarthyism sillyness
interstate highway system
sent federal troops to help enforce de-segregation
peaceful times on the domestic front and economic prosperity
shyt, he even had 200 press conferences, most ever at the time.
Clinton could propose some repub ideas to the repubs back then and they would be like "got 'em"...while Clinton would be like triangulation checkmate bytches 
Obama tries to do that with 'em now and those crazy fukkers be like "FUKK our own ideas, we want to watch your presidency burn nikka!"
Suffice to say Clinton did have it much easier than Obama.
Obama tries to do that with 'em now and those crazy fukkers be like "FUKK our own ideas, we want to watch your presidency burn nikka!"
Suffice to say Clinton did have it much easier than Obama.