Is cinema finally ready to move past comic book movies as the primary driver?

[winb83]

With the MCU falling off and the DCU never even really making it seems like it should be able to happen. Gone are the days where something like Captain Marvel could do a billion. Hell the new Captain America probably is going to struggle to hit half that. What's the next frontier past these comic book movies?

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Can you present another type of film that can have a $200m budget and a $2B box office? If you can, i'm sure that Hollywood will gladly move in that direction.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Can you present another type of film that can have a $200m budget and a $2B box office? If you can, i'm sure that Hollywood will gladly move in that direction.

A good comedy can do numbers (not billions but very successful relative to how much they cost to make). We need things like The Hangover, Horrible Bosses, Superbad again.

 

[winb83]

Can you present another type of film that can have a $200m budget and a $2B box office? If you can, i'm sure that Hollywood will gladly move in that direction.

Average comic book movies can't put up crazy numbers like that anymore. I get in a few years we'll have another Avengers cycle but it's very clear that audiences are waning on the garden variety of these style of movies when say a decade ago you could pluck almost any character from a comic book series in Marvel and give them a movie and have great numbers.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Can you present another type of film that can have a $200m budget and a $2B box office? If you can, i'm sure that Hollywood will gladly move in that direction.

I think those days are mostly over. Think about what's been big recently, Spider-Man relied on all these Sony characters coming in and making it a big nostalgia dump. Deadpool & Wolverine relied are two beloved FOX characters from the previous decade of movies.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

TBH, the biggest guarantee out there are horror and romantic comedies. Do they make billions? no.. but you can easily stack up wins and wins off small ass budgets and then make a profit basically in one weekend.

 

[kdslittlebro]

DC Universe reboot is probably the last shot. Superman will say a lot. I don’t think it’s truly over unless Secret Wars is a “flop”. With the lack of plot or hype leading up to the next Avengers film that’s only a yr away, it has to be more of a setup film than a tentpole.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

What’s really going to fill the void, horrors?

For as much as some fake complain about multiple CBM every year we get like 6 times the amount of horrors flicks.

it kinda surprises me there is no fatigue with those

 

[The Guru]

Finally the death of quips

 

[King Static X]

DC Universe reboot is probably the last shot. Superman will say a lot. I don’t think it’s truly over unless Secret Wars is a “flop”. With the lack of plot or hype leading up to the next Avengers film that’s only a yr away, it has to be more of a setup film than a tentpole.

I would be shocked if Secret Wars flops. It will most likely be an Avengers vs. X-Men film. That kind of blockbuster will be printing money for Disney/Marvel.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

TBH, the biggest guarantee out there are horror and romantic comedies. Do they make billions? no.. but you can easily stack up wins and wins off small ass budgets and then make a profit basically in one weekend.

romantic comedies definitely are not, but, horror are great bang for your buck...the best hit rate is anything associated with kids.

lets look at the 2024 rate

1	Inside Out 2 - Kids, franchise IP	$1,698,863,816
2	Deadpool & Wolverine - Comic	$1,338,073,645
3	Moana 2 -Kids, franchise IP	$1,050,746,044
4	Despicable Me 4 - Kids, franchise IP	$969,126,452
5	Wicked - franchise IP	$728,107,830
6	Dune: Part Twoc - franchise IP	$714,644,358
7	Mufasa: The Lion King - Kids, franchise IP	$698,689,183
8	Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire - franchise IP	$571,850,016
9	Kung Fu Panda 4 - Kids, franchise IP	$547,689,492
10	Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Kids, franchise IP	$483,289,000
11	Venom: The Last Dance - Comic	$478,892,552
12	Gladiator II - franchise IP	$461,865,254
13	Beetlejuice Beetlejuice - franchise IP	$451,900,435
14	Yolo - international film i literally know nothing about	$433,593,489
15	Pegasus 2- international film i literally know nothing about	$422,878,491
16	Successor- international film i literally know nothing about	$422,307,398
17	Bad Boys: Ride or Die - franchise IP	$404,550,184
18	Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes- franchise IP	$397,378,150
19	Twisters- franchise IP	$372,262,265
20	It Ends with Us	$351,441,044

so, what this tells me, is that hollywood will be hungry for making EVEN more franchise movies, and kid movies, or both. It doesn't however tell me that that comic movies are dead...because I can make a comic movie that hits those quadrants and make even more money. Spiderverse 3 will make like 1.5B....kid targeted comic movies are likely our future.

 

[kdslittlebro]

I would be shocked if Secret Wars flops. It will most likely be an Avengers vs. X-Men film. That kind of blockbuster will be printing money for Disney/Marvel.

Yea I don’t think it will either. It’s basically in “too big to fail” territory. That’s why I say if that one doesn’t hit, it’s Black Tuesday for CBMs being the undisputed top dawgs living off their rep alone. Even still I think there’s room for hits. Like I’m pretty sure The Batman II is gonna do numbers. Spiderverse if it ever releases, etc.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Hollywood dead breh

 

[Barney Rubble]

Bring back good action flicks. Die Hard, Predator, Speed, Terminator, Point Break, The Matrix, The Fugitive, The Rock, Con Air etc. If the quality is there, audiences will show up.

 

[summwunn]

Bring back good action flicks. Die Hard, Predator, Speed, Terminator, Point Break, The Matrix, The Fugitive, The Rock, Con Air etc. If the quality is there, audiences will show up.

. . . yeah . .. but we need the main character to be played by someone other than The Rock and Jason Statham . .. and god forbid Liam Neeson . ..