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if they can't float and build toward profitability following this run of successful movies:

1	The Super Mario Bros. Movie	$1,359,370,590	$574,759,600	42.3%	$784,610,990	57.7%
2	Barbie	$1,341,854,460	$594,254,460	44.3%	$747,600,000	55.7%
3	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3	$845,522,394	$358,995,815	42.5%	$486,526,579	57.5%
4	Oppenheimer	$778,876,670	$300,144,670	38.5%	$478,732,000	61.5%
5	Fast X	$704,709,660	$145,960,660	20.7%	$558,749,000	79.3%
6	Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse	$688,094,297	$381,178,195	55.4%	$306,916,102	44.6%
7	The Little Mermaid	$569,021,477	$297,895,447	52.4%	$271,126,030	47.6%
8	Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One	$552,148,955	$168,248,955	30.5%	$383,900,000	69.5%
9	Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania	$476,071,180	$214,504,909	45.1%	$261,566,271	54.9%
10	Elemental	$469,470,865	$151,692,473	32.3%	$317,778,392	67.7%
11	Transformers: Rise of the Beasts	$438,966,392	$157,066,392	35.8%	$281,900,000	64.2%
12	John Wick: Chapter 4	$426,531,897	$187,131,806	43.9%	$239,400,091	56.1%
13	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny	$380,976,299	$174,116,627	45.7%	$206,859,672	54.3%
14	Meg 2: The Trench	$353,869,810	$74,469,810	21%	$279,400,000	79%

THIS MANY movies made over $200mm domestic? And that many over $500mm?? come on man

If I had to guess, since blockbusters are getting stupid expensive to make, distributors have been playing hardball on the splits. Maybe I'm misremembering it, but I thought there was word floating around that Disney was trying to strong arm theaters out of 60% or more of the cut on their releases. Could easily see it being worse now that everyone needs their movies to make $6-700 mil before they even start being considered profitable now.

The entrainment industry is basically in the same space the NBA was in before the 2011 lockout, where idiots threw money around way too freely, and needed something as dumb as a work stoppage to reset things.

Except there's no commissioner there to be the adult in the room, in this case.

 

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If I had to guess, since blockbusters are getting stupid expensive to make, distributors have been playing hardball on the splits. Maybe I'm misremembering it, but I thought there was word floating around that Disney was trying to strong arm theaters out of 60% or more of the cut on their releases. Could easily see it being worse now that everyone needs their movies to make $6-700 mil before they even start being considered profitable now.

The entrainment industry is basically in the same space the NBA was in before the 2011 lockout, where idiots threw money around way too freely, and needed something as dumb as a work stoppage to reset things.

Except there's no commissioner there to be the adult in the room, in this case.

The cost of Commercial Real estate rent and CTL Term loan balloons coming due are causing a REAL squeeze that stock brehs don't consider. Movie theaters are huge and in major city areas...and these are thin margin businesses. If the movie industry is flexing on their margins it's untenable.

 

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The cost of Commercial Real estate rent and CTL Term loan balloons coming due are causing a REAL squeeze that stock brehs don't consider. Movie theaters are huge and in major city areas...and these are thin margin businesses. If the movie industry is flexing on their margins it's untenable.

Yep.

And even without that, it's still untenable.

Disney is considered be having one of the worst years for a studio in a LONG time. Five of the highest grossing releases from the list you posted are theirs, accounting for a little over $2.7 billion dollars. The fact that they're looking at eating losses on so many of their releases despite them grossing that much speaks volumes.

In what world should a kids movie like Elemental have to make most of a billion to not be considered a failure? The way shyt's going, we're about to go back to something closer to the early 200s as far as budgets go, but getting there's going to be as painful as possible.

 

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Yep.

And even without that, it's still untenable.

Disney is considered be having one of the worst years for a studio in a LONG time. Five of the highest grossing releases from the list you posted are theirs, accounting for a little over $2.7 billion dollars. The fact that they're looking at eating losses on so many of their releases despite them grossing that much speaks volumes.

In what world should a kids movie like Elemental have to make most of a billion to not be considered a failure? The way shyt's going, we're about to go back to something closer to the early 200s as far as budgets go, but getting there's going to be as painful as possible.

Brutal...basically without a tentpole marvel or Star wars movie to make a billion (and I expect marvels to brick, and the audience to be blamed) they struggle real bad right now...and they're making shytty decisions across the board...elemental is a prime example. Kids don't like everything...but they will go out in droves for what they do like spiderman and Mario.

 

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Brutal...basically without a tentpole marvel or Star wars movie to make a billion (and I expect marvels to brick, and the audience to be blamed) they struggle real bad right now...and they're making shytty decisions across the board...elemental is a prime example. Kids don't like everything...but they will go out in droves for what they do like spiderman and Mario.

The terrible decision making is insane. At this point, they're dropping the ball on even basic decisions like when something should release.

For example, The Haunted Mansion. The question of why you'd decide to make a big budget remake of a movie that wasn't a huge hit set aside, why would you release that shyt a week after Barbenheimer flatted everything around it, instead of closer to Halloween? If you know that most kids movies end up being big hits based off of having legs, why release a movie going for what is largely the same audience a month after Elemental?

Or, Indiana Jones. No one was really asking for another one of those. And even then, I'm 37 and likely among the youngest portion of the fanbase for the franchise. Spending $300 million on a movie about an old guy punching Nazis isn't the move.

It's like all of these studios have taken the wrong lessons from the peak of the MCU. In their reasoning, the lesson was that the audience is a bottomless well of money, because they're going out to see anything with a decent budget that they're told to. But the real reason was that people were seeing nearly every MCU movie because they included just enough of an overarching storyline to give the audience a reason to keep paying. As it is now, they're really expecting people to literally see something every weekend, and maybe even have some weeks where they would need to go two or three times to give these studios the revenue they need to turn a profit. Meanwhile, the audience has smartened up, and decided to prioritize the stuff they think actually looks worth it to them, and will happily wait for steaming on everything else.

 

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Or, Indiana Jones. No one was really asking for another one of those. And even then, I'm 37 and likely among the youngest portion of the fanbase for the franchise. Spending $300 million on a movie about an old guy punching Nazis isn't the move

Critics even hipster critics like The Big Picture were REEEEAL forgiving to that movie too. I didn't even see it. It just wasn't worth NOT enjoying a summer day for 3 hours (door to door) at any point during its release window.

 

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Critics even hipster critics like The Big Picture were REEEEAL forgiving to that movie too. I didn't even see it. It just wasn't worth NOT enjoying a summer day for 3 hours (door to door) at any point during its release window.

Same, breh, and I absolutely love the first three movies.

I just wasn't interested in blowing time on what was the defacto fourth of July weekend, just so I could end up at best, not being super disappointed, and at worst, confused about how you hire the guy who directed Logan, and don't just try to do the same thing with Indiana Jones.

 

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If the stock takes a dip, I would buy some

 

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The terrible decision making is insane. At this point, they're dropping the ball on even basic decisions like when something should release.

For example, The Haunted Mansion. The question of why you'd decide to make a big budget remake of a movie that wasn't a huge hit set aside, why would you release that shyt a week after Barbenheimer flatted everything around it, instead of closer to Halloween? If you know that most kids movies end up being big hits based off of having legs, why release a movie going for what is largely the same audience a month after Elemental?

Or, Indiana Jones. No one was really asking for another one of those. And even then, I'm 37 and likely among the youngest portion of the fanbase for the franchise. Spending $300 million on a movie about an old guy punching Nazis isn't the move.

It's like all of these studios have taken the wrong lessons from the peak of the MCU. In their reasoning, the lesson was that the audience is a bottomless well of money, because they're going out to see anything with a decent budget that they're told to. But the real reason was that people were seeing nearly every MCU movie because they included just enough of an overarching storyline to give the audience a reason to keep paying. As it is now, they're really expecting people to literally see something every weekend, and maybe even have some weeks where they would need to go two or three times to give these studios the revenue they need to turn a profit. Meanwhile, the audience has smartened up, and decided to prioritize the stuff they think actually looks worth it to them, and will happily wait for steaming on everything else.