IRS is going to allow DHS to use tax data to get information on undocumented immigrants

[King]

Illegals don't deserve rights but this is a bad precedent

They pay taxes, do taxpayers deserve rights?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Like others have said if you really want to crack down on illegal immigration, go after the corporations who employ them.

But getting a tax ID and then paying federal, state, local, social security, FICA and Medicare taxes isn’t a bad thing. It’s those fostering this that is.

Honestly, the elephant in the room is that we need as many people paying into social security as possible. Of course we can also raise the ceiling on the social security tax (which I'm all for as well). These types of conversations always end up being consumed by emotionally charged arguments. These guys are enraged at the foreign people working in McDonald's paying taxes. Those are the immigrants paying into social security without the benefit of receiving social security themselves.

 

[ORDER_66]

I’m confused, how can you be undocumented and file taxes?

I think undocumented citizens get a special number to file taxes ITIN

An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN).

 

[Samori Toure]

This shyt is so dramatic. It is not a betrayal. People know if they are in the country legally or not. Being in the country illegally is a crime. It doesn't matter whether they catch you at the border today or 30 years later in Boston. Being in the country illegally is still a crime.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

a lot of them use stolen socials, which democrats expect people to just be OK with

Trump hires them and he expects you to be okay with it

Why is your bytch ass not complaining about that ?

 

[the cac mamba]

Trump hires them and he expects you to be okay with it

Why is your bytch ass not complaining about that ?

because trump got illegal immigration crossings down enormously, in 2 months, after enforcing what biden's weak ass wouldn't

i don't give a fukk about illegals coming here, they're welcome to do so. and i don't care if they get deported either. the era of democrats shaming people about this is over. nobody cares

 

[FAH1223]

This shyt is so dramatic. It is not a betrayal. People know if they are in the country legally or not. Being in the country illegally is a crime. It doesn't matter whether they catch you at the border today or 30 years later in Boston. Being in the country illegally is still a crime.

Being an undocumented immigrant, or "illegal alien" as it's sometimes called, is not a crime under federal law, but there are specific actions related to immigration status that can be criminal offenses.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

Undocumented presence is a civil matter, not a crime:
Being in the United States without proper documentation is a civil violation, not a criminal one. The penalty for this is typically deportation or removal, which the Supreme Court has determined is not criminal punishment.


Specific actions can be criminal:
However, certain actions related to immigration status can be criminal. For example, entering or re-entering the United States after being deported or removed is a felony punishable by up to two years in prison.

8 U.S.C. § 1325 and 1326:
These sections of the U.S. Code address criminal offenses related to immigration, including unlawful entry and re-entry.

8 U.S.C. § 1325: Makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States, such as entering between ports of entry or making false statements while entering.

8 U.S.C. § 1326: Makes it a crime to unlawfully re-enter the United States after being deported or removed.

Criminal Alien Program (CAP):
ICE has a program that focuses on identifying, arresting, and removing aliens with criminal records who pose a threat to public safety.
Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the general population:
Studies show that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born population and other immigrant groups.

 

[FAH1223]

Honestly, the elephant in the room is that we need as many people paying into social security as possible. Of course we can also raise the ceiling on the social security tax (which I'm all for as well). These types of conversations always end up being consumed by emotionally charged arguments. These guys are enraged at the foreign people working in McDonald's paying taxes. Those are the immigrants paying into social security without the benefit of receiving social security themselves.

Reagan style amnesty and then closing the bottlenecks in the system is the answer.

 

[Pressure]

Being an undocumented immigrant, or "illegal alien" as it's sometimes called, is not a crime under federal law, but there are specific actions related to immigration status that can be criminal offenses.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

Undocumented presence is a civil matter, not a crime:
Being in the United States without proper documentation is a civil violation, not a criminal one. The penalty for this is typically deportation or removal, which the Supreme Court has determined is not criminal punishment.


Specific actions can be criminal:
However, certain actions related to immigration status can be criminal. For example, entering or re-entering the United States after being deported or removed is a felony punishable by up to two years in prison.

8 U.S.C. § 1325 and 1326:
These sections of the U.S. Code address criminal offenses related to immigration, including unlawful entry and re-entry.

8 U.S.C. § 1325: Makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States, such as entering between ports of entry or making false statements while entering.

8 U.S.C. § 1326: Makes it a crime to unlawfully re-enter the United States after being deported or removed.

Criminal Alien Program (CAP):
ICE has a program that focuses on identifying, arresting, and removing aliens with criminal records who pose a threat to public safety.
Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the general population:
Studies show that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born population and other immigrant groups.

The nuance isn’t necessary. These people are being deported. I’d rather that than them being jailed indefinitely while waiting for hearings.

 

[General Mills]

Like others have said if you really want to crack down on illegal immigration, go after the corporations who employ them.

But getting a tax ID and then paying federal, state, local, social security, FICA and Medicare taxes isn’t a bad thing. It’s those fostering this that is.

Ok I get it. But it’s truly sending mix messages. Yeah you’re here illegally. But while your here illegally go ahead and pay taxes legally

 

[DonB90]

Not my problem

 

[CHICAGO]

GOOD



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[the bossman]

How the fukk you can we expect to cut back on illegal immigration if we’re just like, “come on over, hell you can even get a job and file your taxes!” !

simply go after the companies that hire them. Would be a done deal. But they'll never do it

 

[the cac mamba]

Ok I get it. But it’s truly sending mix messages. Yeah you’re here illegally. But while your here illegally go ahead and pay taxes legally

if they don't like it, they can feel free to leave. or apply for citizenship legally

post-covid inflation, and the massive cost of living increase, killed all the "we are the world" bullshyt from democrats. nobody cares

 

[Loose]

Americans destroy these people countries with wars tarrifs sanctions, cia influence drug wars like the good white supremacist nation we're then give them zero ability to become legal citizens. I'm fine with them paying taxes we don't have enough workers in our workforce anyway.