In the 1930’s, the Communist Party had a saying about voting: “The worse, the better.”

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the nazi party of hitler was a right wing one, calling them socialist because they had socialist in their name is nonsense. after hitler and his people took control of this regional party they struggled with the idea of having socialist in the name, but figured it was worth it to try and attract the idiot socialist and marxists who are known useful idiots who would fall for anything in their quest to destroy german democracy. so the socialist in the nazi party name is a perfect example of communists voting "the worst, the better."
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The nazi parties job was to create the atmosphere needed to draw up public support for a so called Jewish home state and they did it very well.

American Jews were greatly against a national Jewish homeland when the idea was first presented by Zionists before WW1 so they went to extreme measures to get their sympathy and support.
 

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preaching political abstinence is low iq thinking


yes they were wrong then, you are wrong now
 

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You pick the best of what's available in the primary. If your candidate loses the primary then you pick the best candidate of the major candidates who can actually win the election. It ain't that complicated.
 

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the nazi party of hitler was a right wing one, calling them socialist because they had socialist in their name is nonsense. after hitler and his people took control of this regional party they struggled with the idea of having socialist in the name, but figured it was worth it to try and attract the idiot socialist and marxists who are known useful idiots who would fall for anything in their quest to destroy german democracy. so the socialist in the nazi party name is a perfect example of communists voting "the worst, the better."

also the Nazi's were supported by the industrialists elite.





The Classes​

Support for Hitler has long been identified among the upper classes, and this is largely believed to be correct. Certainly, large non-Jewish businesses initially supported Hitler to counter their fear of communism, and Hitler received support from wealthy industrialists and large companies: when Germany rearmed and went to war, key sectors of the economy found renewed sales and gave greater support. Nazis like Goering were able to use their backgrounds to please the aristocratic elements in Germany, especially when Hitler’s answer to cramped land use was expansion in the east, and not re-settling workers on Junker lands, as Hitler’s predecessors had suggested. Young male aristocrats flooded to the SS and Himmler’s desire for an elitist medieval system and his faith in the old families.


Disdain for democracy​

The conservative elite’s hatred of democracy may seem surprising on the surface, considering they fared reasonably well under the Weimar Republic that replaced the kaiser after the First World War. As Malinowski notes: “German revolution and democracy had been extremely friendly with the conservative elites in and after 1918. The nobility kept their heads, their titles, their properties, their castles, and industrialists their factories.” So why then did the elite share the Nazis’ disdain for German democracy? Malinowski believes part of the answer may lie in democracy’s weak foundations in Germany. “The conservative elites in Britain and France had much more time to build compromises with democracies and parliaments than in Germany. There is probably no other country in Europe that has a higher stability of power than Britain. An observer used to the highly unstable and fragile German conditions might even feel that it was basically the same people running the country since Hastings. Yet the German elite had often been challenged and smashed, exposed to political extremism, war, destruction and revolution: the First World War and the doom of the German empire in 1918 being the most important catastrophe before the Second World War and the Holocaust.


“There was a constant feeling of threat among the elites. And they felt that they were under attack from the communists and leftwing forces. Perhaps the most important element of all is that the elite had to accept political change in 1918 at a time of doom and catastrophe and absolute despair in Germany, which is infinitely more difficult than doing it from a position of triumph."


In the German federal elections of 1932, amid ongoing economic crisis, the Nazis soared to 37 per cent of the vote – making them the biggest party in the Reichstag, though short of an overall majority. By this stage the Weimar Republic was already gravely weak, with power being exercised largely by members of the conservative elite, acting as advisors to the octogenarian war hero president, Paul von Hindenburg.


The elites thought they could ride Hitler like a horse. But they soon discovered that they were the horse and that Hitler was the horseman
Rather than seeking to combat Nazism, the elite hoped to co-opt Hitler, with chancellor Franz von Papen offering him the role of vice-chancellor. “A metaphor these people used a lot – because most of them were noble horsemen – is that they wanted to ride the Nazi movement like a horse,” says Malinowski. “They would use the momentum and the political potential of the Nazi party but still keep it at bay. The idea of ‘framing’ – to control Hitler, to keep him in a conservative ‘frame’ – was the key concept in 1933. And it was a moment of deep misery in the history of German conservatism.”
 
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You pick the best of what's available in the primary. If your candidate loses the primary then you pick the best candidate of the major candidates who can actually win the election. It ain't that complicated.

voting is a signal that you believe in the system
 

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voting is a signal that you believe in the system
No it's not. You vote based on the policies that most closely align with what you believe. That's what voting is. The person you vote for is a representative. That doesn't mean you share the same beliefs across the board.
 
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