In retrospect, with renewed standard and freshened perspective …. R U Still Down is a 5 mic classic

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All the way play through too. On a deep level … people just wanted 1996 Pac at the time so it was kind of discounted

I invite you to relisten to the album with your new adult perspective


The album *R U Still Down? (Remember Me)* by 2Pac, released posthumously in 1997, has the following tracklist:

**Disc 1:**
1. Redemption
2. Open Fire
3. R U Still Down? (Remember Me)
4. Hellrazor
5. Thug Style
6. Where Do We Go From Here (Interlude)
7. I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto
8. Nothing to Lose
9. I'm Gettin Money
10. Lie to Kick It (featuring Richie Rich)
11. fukk All Y'all
12. Let Them Thangs Go
13. Definition of a Thug nikka

**Disc 2:**
1. Ready 4 Whatever (featuring Big Syke)
2. When I Get Free
3. Hold On Be Strong
4. I'm Losin It (featuring Big Syke & Spice 1)
5. Fake Ass bytches
6. Do for Love
7. Enemies with Me (featuring Dramacydal)
8. Nothin But Love
9. 16 on Death Row
10. I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto (Hip-Hop Version)
11. When I Get Free II
12. Black Starry Night (Interlude)
13. Only Fear of Death
 

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got some of my favorite all time pac songs on it. I think only fear death is the best song he ever recorded. but I can't say the whole album's classic cause I skip a lot :manny:
 
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Interesting but I can see it .
Makaveli matw and thuglife are my favorite pac projects .... What's your top3?


me against the world
Vol1/7 day theory
untilend oftime
all eyez on me


wild i know but i’ve said this before

but all eyez on me sounds very forced to me
it doesnt sound like a pac album
it sounds like a handpicked album from suge given to pac
obviously not every song but a good amount of the tracks to me
 

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me against the world
Vol1/7 day theory
untilend oftime
all eyez on me


wild i know but i’ve said this before

but all eyez on me sounds very forced to me
it doesnt sound like a pac album
it sounds like a handpicked album from suge given to pac
obviously not every song but a good amount of the tracks to me

Do you mean that cause of the production or just the way the album is set up as far as the sequencing and the tone of the album... or both? Very unique take, walk me through this because I can kinda sorta see what you mean by it not sounding like a "Pac" album... to me its the best double album in Hip Hop history but imo there is a difference in "2Pac" and "Tupac" as far as vulnerability and depth...
 

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Do you mean that cause of the production or just the way the album is set up as far as the sequencing and the tone of the album... or both? Very unique take, walk me through this because I can kinda sorta see what you mean by it not sounding like a "Pac" album... to me its the best double album in Hip Hop history but imo there is a difference in "2Pac" and "Tupac" as far as vulnerability and depth...
What is he is saying is an interesting observation to be able to be perceptive of

The songs are so hallmark that it's hard to think of them as not 2Pac

But a majority if the album was set-up for something else - perhaps a Dre and Ice Cube project

And those songs were given to Tupac for him to do his thing on a plug and play basis

Now there are some songs that are definitively Tupac ... Ambitionz Az a Ridah

I Ain't Mad At Cha, Life Goes On

But others were plug and play and thus, it is a project that Tupac was not thr creative spearhead of
 
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Do you mean that cause of the production or just the way the album is set up as far as the sequencing and the tone of the album... or both? Very unique take, walk me through this because I can kinda sorta see what you mean by it not sounding like a "Pac" album... to me its the best double album in Hip Hop history but imo there is a difference in "2Pac" and "Tupac" as far as vulnerability and depth...

Its just something about the tone of the album that is honestly hard to describe. But ill try

songs like 2oamw, title track, ambitions. aint mad atcha. those are genuine 2pac tracks. they sound like vintage raw form pac.
not saying that they fit in any other pac era/album but they gave that same feel and genuineness.that other songs like blasphemy. It ain’t Easy or Pour Out Lil Liquor give me

songs like hearts of men, mind made up. no more pain,all about u, how du u want it. To me, these sound like they were gift wrapped for pac all he had to do was put the vocals on them. Especially All About U & How Du U Want It. they sound very cookie cutter and forced whereas a track like I Get Around sounds like pac had a blast playing this and recording and genuinely enjoyed the session

like all them posse cuts on that album not it. they really not. them shyts sound like something pac felt he had to make because its what death row was doing at the time

apart from ambitions & picture me rolling. That whole thug persona on that album doesnt sound real. Again to me sound like suge was in the studio with him and was guiding him. Now obviously i wasnt in the studio so idk what was going on but i’m just speaking from the way the music sounds to me in terms of feeling.

Its been said before that some tracks/beats were given to pac from other albums cause he was fresh out on bail so i feel like there is some sort of truth to what i’m saying

i can go on some more but i think you kinda catch my drift
 

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me against the world
Vol1/7 day theory
untilend oftime
all eyez on me


wild i know but i’ve said this before

but all eyez on me sounds very forced to me
it doesnt sound like a pac album
it sounds like a handpicked album from suge given to pac
obviously not every song but a good amount of the tracks to me
I'm not mad at it . My favorite pac album post death was still i rise . I gotta revisit until the end of time . Ballad of a dead Soulja was my jam tho
 

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Its just something about the tone of the album that is honestly hard to describe. But ill try

songs like 2oamw, title track, ambitions. aint mad atcha. those are genuine 2pac tracks. they sound like vintage raw form pac.
not saying that they fit in any other pac era/album but they gave that same feel and genuineness.that other songs like blasphemy. It ain’t Easy or Pour Out Lil Liquor give me

songs like hearts of men, mind made up. no more pain,all about u, how du u want it. To me, these sound like they were gift wrapped for pac all he had to do was put the vocals on them. Especially All About U & How Du U Want It. they sound very cookie cutter and forced whereas a track like I Get Around sounds like pac had a blast playing this and recording and genuinely enjoyed the session

like all them posse cuts on that album not it. they really not. them shyts sound like something pac felt he had to make because its what death row was doing at the time

apart from ambitions & picture me rolling. That whole thug persona on that album doesnt sound real. Again to me sound like suge was in the studio with him and was guiding him. Now obviously i wasnt in the studio so idk what was going on but i’m just speaking from the way the music sounds to me in terms of feeling.

Its been said before that some tracks/beats were given to pac from other albums cause he was fresh out on bail so i feel like there is some sort of truth to what i’m saying

i can go on some more but i think you kinda catch my drift
It took me years to understand this, coupled with a few comments from Daz and raising my perspective through the process of actually creating my own album
 
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I'm not mad at it . My favorite pac album post death was still i rise . I gotta revisit until the end of time . Ballad of a dead Soulja was my jam tho

to me Until the End of Time accomplishes what All Eyez On Me tried to. it does have some weak tracks but i’ll take the highs over all eyez on me any day

wild take i know. But the thug persona sounds way more real to me.
You can hear that hunger and authenticity of a son of a black panther thru tracks like ballad of a dead soulja, letter 2 my unborn, the title track(my favorite pac track)
 
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