In reality, it's impossible to cover yourself in glory as a conservative- fiscal or social conservatism

[Jalether]

It pretty much boils down to

Fiscal conservatives: Want little to no taxes both for themselves and corporations. They want total deregulation i.e let businesses do whatever they want
to make the most profit, environment and climate change,safety standards and quality control be damned which makes them selfish and self centered at minimum and a psychopath at worse

Then there's the socially conservatives: The confederate monument and flag bearers,"pro lifers". culture war fighters,any progress equals socialism,maga crowd who are just the worst of the worst since they also support the same policies as fiscal conservatives in addition to their awfulness

So as a conservative, you have no redeeming qualities because at the core of their philosophy is lack of empathy,extreme individualism,racism and selfishness

 

[DEAD7]

It pretty much boils down to

Fiscal conservatives: Want little to no taxes both for themselves and corporations. They want total deregulation i.e let businesses do whatever they want
to make the most profit, environment and climate change,safety standards and quality control be damned which makes them selfish and self centered at minimum and a psychopath at worse

Then there's the socially conservatives: The confederate monument and flag bearers,"pro lifers". culture war fighters,any progress equals socialism,maga crowd who are just the worst of the worst since they also support the same policies as fiscal conservatives in addition to their awfulness

So as a conservative, you have no redeeming qualities because at the core of their philosophy is lack of empathy,extreme individualism,racism and selfishness

False.

 

[NoMayo15]

It pretty much boils down to

Fiscal conservatives: Want little to no taxes both for themselves and corporations. They want total deregulation i.e let businesses do whatever they want
to make the most profit, environment and climate change,safety standards and quality control be damned which makes them selfish and self centered at minimum and a psychopath at worse

Then there's the socially conservatives: The confederate monument and flag bearers,"pro lifers". culture war fighters,any progress equals socialism,maga crowd who are just the worst of the worst since they also support the same policies as fiscal conservatives in addition to their awfulness

So as a conservative, you have no redeeming qualities because at the core of their philosophy is lack of empathy,extreme individualism,racism and selfishness

True.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

It pretty much boils down to

Fiscal conservatives: Want little to no taxes both for themselves and corporations. They want total deregulation i.e let businesses do whatever they want
to make the most profit, environment and climate change,safety standards and quality control be damned which makes them selfish and self centered at minimum and a psychopath at worse

Then there's the socially conservatives: The confederate monument and flag bearers,"pro lifers". culture war fighters,any progress equals socialism,maga crowd who are just the worst of the worst since they also support the same policies as fiscal conservatives in addition to their awfulness

So as a conservative, you have no redeeming qualities because at the core of their philosophy is lack of empathy,extreme individualism,racism and selfishness

The MAGA crowd doesn't care about fiscal policy, they just don't want entitlements benefitting demographics they consider "Others". Trump really widened the rift between conservatives and red meat republicans.

 

[ogc163]

HL posting TLR type takes

 

[the cac mamba]

social conservatives are mostly awful. white christian grievances

fiscal conservatives aren't gonna be proven right until this fukkin 30 trillion dollar debt collapses. just depends when

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No lies detected in the op

 

[Professor Emeritus]

social conservatives are mostly awful. white christian grievances

fiscal conservatives aren't gonna be proven right until this fukkin 30 trillion dollar debt collapses. just depends when

Who are these "fiscal conservatives" who have been seriously committed to debt reduction and would be proven right by that? Give me a list of the politicians who voted against Trump's massive tax cuts and increases in defense spending because they were actually concerned about debt collapse. Republican politicians did nothing to hold Reagan, Bush, or Trump in check when they presided over the three largest increases in year-to-year deficits in modern American history.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

No lies detected in the op

fiscal conservatives aren't gonna be proven right until this fukkin 30 trillion dollar debt collapses. just depends when

US GDP as of 2022 is very close to $26T. The US debt is $31T. Something is gonna give.

They should have listened to Rashida Tlaib about how to pay for COVID relief. Because if COVID didn't happen. The US debt would be under $25T.

 

[ill]

US GDP as of 2022 is very close to $26T. The US debt is $31T. Something is gonna give.

They should have listened to Rashida Tlaib about how to pay for COVID relief. Because if COVID didn't happen. The US debt would be under $25T.

First line is a little misleading. GDP is annual while debt is cumulative. Your example makes it seem like we're $5T short yearly.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

First line is a little misleading. GDP is annual while debt is cumulative. Your example makes it seem like we're $5T short yearly.

Well I didn't expect anyone to think that GDP = Tax Revenue. But I can see what you're saying.

 

[the cac mamba]

Who are these "fiscal conservatives" who have been seriously committed to debt reduction and would be proven right by that? Give me a list of the politicians who voted against Trump's massive tax cuts and increases in defense spending because they were actually concerned about debt collapse. Republican politicians did nothing to hold Reagan, Bush, or Trump in check when they presided over the three largest increases in year-to-year deficits in modern American history.

i meant a hypothetical, consistent fiscal conservative, not the republicans you see under your bed every night

 

[MAKAVELI25]

i meant a hypothetical, consistent fiscal conservative, not the republicans you see under your bed every night

You continue to show you are not equipped for these arguments.

 

[the cac mamba]

You continue to show you are not equipped for these arguments.

the only thing you can criticize a democrat for around here, is not being far left enough these arguments are inherently unserious

are social security and our national debt sustainable forever? yes or no?

 

[Eternal Tecate]

There is a way: be a communist. Communism is a conservative position.