In my younger days there's no way you could of told me Papoose wasnt gonna be NYC's next rap superstar...

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I just dont kno what the fukk happened :mjcry:





Dude dog walked this remix, was blazing the mixtape scene, had the look had the swag the flow, even handlin shyt on a beef level at the time when NY beef shyt was at all time high



WTF HAPPENED. Now this certified lover boy out here getting cheated on by battle rappers :mindblown:


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The easy answer is whites don't love him hop as much as we would like.

They love listening to it.

But they don't love throwing away generation money at it.

When the southern bammas showed they could be more productive, that's where the money went.
 

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well at one point I kinda thought Cory Gunz was gonna be something too, and look how both them shyts turned out

does anybody have a link to Papoose's first alphabet raps from the years before he linked with Kay Slay? I swear he had a earlier version that was even iller, and he just replayed that same move once he got up with Kay Slay. Before all that Pap used to rap with Kool G Rap before the Kay Slay mixtape days and he was maybe even doper back then, I remember that shyt but it seems buried on the internet at this point


Pap was always still potentially ill after that too. I remember the hype off the "Five boroughs of death got New York City in the palm of my hand" verse on Busta Rhymes shyt, and it was cool for the time but I'd much rather hear the regular original Touch It than the remix at this point. And he even had a chance of hype again years later with the Kendrick/Control verse response. I remember thinking he coulda done a 2Chainz style rename/reinvention. And or coulda had a bigger moment with Remy Ma. and even again after that with the Lil Wayne african song a few years ago. He's always had talent but was corn at the same time. He's had many opportunities but he never quite made it work


The easiest answer may be that taking the biggest money contract doesnt always work out, Jive may have offered the bigger advance money but they were already pretty clearly not that good a label for Rap artists by the time Pap & Kay Slay took that particular deal. He had a decent bidding war going at that point, but just cuz they offer a bigger advance doesnt mean they know what to do with you, or how to help you develop to a higher level.
 
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Pap had the streets of NYC on lock at one point in time. He would have done well if he dropped his debut in the early 2000s during the G-Unit/Dipset/Roc-a-fella era, unfortunately by the time he got his deal and navigated through all of the delays surrounding The Nacirema Dream the sound of mainstream hip-hop had already started to move on and his style was outdated.
 
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I was in HS when he was hot and I had enough sense to know then he was never going to be able to truly crossover...

Pap was/is a talented lyricist, he had a lane but it wasn't the mainstream audience especially at that time ...

Whatever the case besides the remy cheating shxt breh seem like he's held himself down in a solid place...
 
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