In my opinion, Saba is the only new artist to truly carry that Kendrick and Cole feel

[DEXPER]

Listen to Dot and Cole’s very first 4 tapes when they were 18 & up.

They touched on a multitude of topics while being extremely relatable. The songs were creative and you felt the passion they put into their tapes. You felt the rise. Even if they started off rough.

The problem now is, a lot of these nikkas can rap, but they are really lacking when it comes to putting together a meaningful body of work.

Saba has his peers (the new artists right now) beat when it comes to discography imo.

Let’s look at Dot’s first 4 tapes age 18 & up

Training Day
C4 (rough)
Kendrick Lamar EP
Overly Dedicated

Cole’s tapes age 18 & up
The Come Up
The Warm Up
Friday Night Lights
Sideline Story

Saba’s age 18 & up
Get Comfortable
Comfort Zone
Bucket List
Care For Me (current) 23/24yrs old

What they all have in common is that not only do they improve with each release (consistency), but they each have powerful songs within them. Strong concepts and all touch on a multitude of different things. You can see the greatness building. And the rapping is A1. You can relate to it and they each have an actual story to tell. None of it is like “Let me preach to you” it’s more like “Let me tell you how I feel about this and let me tell my story” They also get a little more famous with each release.

(SS as a whole may not be Cole’s best, but it still got him deep in the game early)

Some examples of some strong strong records:






He’s the only one with the storytelling talent too

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Some more comparisons







Etc. You can compare this shyt. From different topics, to song structure, to flow. They are all in a similar space of greatness and potential.

No other newcomer tapes are there. They don’t have the songs either. Dude is the only one that “gets it” imo. I see him outlasting every one of his current peers.

But yeah had to put this out there after listening to the all the other newer artists releases this year man. Lol this the only thread imma make, salute.

TLDR: Compare the songs, topics, concepts, flows and tapes between thier first 4 releases 18 & up.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

You should make more threads. If tde is in it I'll be in there. You should consider absoul too. People love his tapes

 

[DEXPER]

You should make more threads. If tde is in it I'll be in there. You should consider absoul too. People love his tapes

Yeah I kinda just quit the forums and all that. Just coming out of retirement to speak on somebody I feel needs that hype behind him lol.

Also Soulo is fire. I’m only talking new up and comers right now though. But yeah Control System is a classic. He came out the gate with heat with the Longterm tapes.

I think the thing with Soul though is that he wasn’t able to crossover well. His music got too complex for the masses. (Didn’t get too complex for me)

Saba I feel won’t have that problem because his music stays at a ground level like Kendrick and Cole’s. Ab-Soul is still one of my favorites though and just because he wasn’t able to crossover doesn’t take anything away from his craft and what he did/does.

I’m not saying one is better than the other. Just talking about taking that next step into mainstream while staying true.

 

[Big Mel]

There’s a “Cole Feel”? Hahahahhahahaj.

 

[BigMan]

J.I.D.

 

[JayStarwind]

I'm not up on majority of the newer acts but it's going to take time to actually come to a conclusion like this. I have to revisit some of Saba's earlier work but he doesn't have that buzz that Kendrick and Cole had during their come ups, even with an AOTY contender.

 

[DEXPER]

J.I.D.

S/O my nikka JID, This is my opinion on him though.

JID is dope, but he’s lacking for the reasons I stated above. He can rap and is in the top part of my list of newcomers, but he doesn’t have nearly the same amount of strong records or tapes. He also hasn’t fully found his sound yet imo.

Dicaprio 2 isn’t better than Bucket List and isnt near Care For Me imo. Nothing really “fresh” is being done on the tape. It doesn’t have a “feel” or anything like Saba’s, Cole’s or Dot’s.

He’s lacking truly strong songs and tapes. (Prom/King, Heaven All Around Me, Photosynthesis, American Hypnosis, Life, Calligraphy, Heart Part 2, Ignorance Is Bliss, Oppisites Attract, Heaven and Hell, Don’t Understand, 2 Face, Sideline Story, Too Deep For The Intro, Breakdown, The Badness etc.)

Add Grey, Comfort Food etc. Saba is just more advanced when it comes to songcrafting, topics and concepts. He can also rap just as well as JID. Technical and all. (Kentucky, GPS, Logout etc) He even outrapped him on thier collab “Pay The Man”

But yeah, on a side note, I don’t like when nikkas say JID is the “next Kendrick” just because they sound alike lmao. That’s highkey dissing JID.

 

[Larry Lambo]

First time I've heard of dude, but homie is nice.

 

[DEXPER]

I'm not up on majority of the newer acts but it's going to take time to actually come to a conclusion like this. I have to revisit some of Saba's earlier work but he doesn't have that buzz that Kendrick and Cole had during their come ups, even with an AOTY contender.

When Dot was coming up, he wanted to rap like Wayne and Hov. That showed heavy on his first 3 tapes “YHNIC, “Training Day” and finally “C4” Dude was under under ground.

C4 fell through and the critics bodied it. Dude was upset. (S/N: This is the tape where he got that alien voice flow from lol)

He eventually came back with the Kendrick Lamar EP talking about how the critics thought they had him and shyt. He still didn’t have any buzz really at this point. But you began seeing how all that trial and error was finally paying off.

That led into the tape where he started to see some actual buzz which was OD. Dre heard his song “Ignorance Is Bliss” and the rest is history. Cole was pretty big in the scene at this point and he even shouted out the tape. That’s probably how Dre heard it.

Cole’s rise and buzz was pretty straightforward.

I feel Saba is in a similar space where Kendrick was during OD. Not only did dude recieve critical acclaim with Care For Me, but Cole was playing songs from the album every night on the KOD tour. High chance he might sign to Dreamville. Also on a record he just dropped a couple weeks ago called “Stay Right Here” he said labels are knocking at the door.

Everybody path is different though as you see with Cole. He didn’t take 6 tapes to blow or see some buzz. But I feel that’s because he had his shyt right at this time. He didn’t really go through a trial and error phase for his sound. (That kinda came back to bite a lil bit though lol. He got it back right though)

I strongly feel Saba’s about to have the strongest come up. He’s the only one I see the most similarities with when it comes to Cole and Dot and they come ups. Talking strong songs, tapes etc. He at a great place with just 4 tapes to his name.

 

[greenvale]

OP, I’ll have to give your post a thorough read through later but I just wanted to echo Saba is the future. Almost all of his stuff is in house too so can’t wait to see how he blows up once he expands his collaboration circle a little

 

[DEXPER]

OP, I’ll have to give your post a thorough read through later but I just wanted to echo Saba is the future. Almost all of his stuff is in house too so can’t wait to see how he blows up once he expands his collaboration circle a little

Yeah my fault for this being lengthy lol, I just be wanting to cover all ground. But yeah man word, a lot of potential for some crazy crazy collabs. That’s how the best tapes are made tbh.

 

[GoldenGlove]

The word "feel" validates your thread title.

SABA has all of the ingredients to carry on the torch for the "accessible conscious" rapper going forward. He has a major city that will support him if he does blow (like Kendrick with LA/Compton). I don't know if he'll get to their level in terms of success, but the talent and team around him to continue to grow is there.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Also... GREY is one of the best songs I've heard this year.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

What's the Kendrick, Cole, feel?

 

[Yoda]

and what feel is that? a poo poo?